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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Well, as long as Beethoven's 9th Symphony conducted by Wilhelm Furtwängler in 1951 fits on a CD, there's no need to increase the capacity of the Compact Disk... :lol:
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To be honest, I was waiting to see whether either would be worth the effort... Still haven't decided.

 

Offline karajorma

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as well as with the transition from cassette tapes to cd. it bugs me that weve gone through 2 dvd formats yet the obsolete cd has not been upgraded (much) in over 25 years.

What point is there in upgrading? CD is already plenty good. Upgrading CD probably wouldn't be worth it. They tried it with DVD audio and no one was bothered in the slightest.
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Offline Kosh

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This is just an excuse to charge an even higher amount for the same movies you already (could) have bought on DVD and blame it on the expense of producing them in HD. Funny how the price doesn't come back down once the price of making them falls below the price of the established medium though. 

We saw this happen with the Video to DVD transition and I'm just pissing myself with laughter at how everyone is lining up and presenting so that the winning HD format could **** them in the arse again.

as well as with the transition from cassette tapes to cd. it bugs me that weve gone through 2 dvd formats yet the obsolete cd has not been upgraded (much) in over 25 years.


The DVD is kind of an upgrade. They are practically the same technology, laser reading a reflection on a plastic disc.
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This is just an excuse to charge an even higher amount for the same movies you already (could) have bought on DVD and blame it on the expense of producing them in HD. Funny how the price doesn't come back down once the price of making them falls below the price of the established medium though. 

We saw this happen with the Video to DVD transition and I'm just pissing myself with laughter at how everyone is lining up and presenting so that the winning HD format could **** them in the arse again.

as well as with the transition from cassette tapes to cd. it bugs me that weve gone through 2 dvd formats yet the obsolete cd has not been upgraded (much) in over 25 years.

You know, there's not much point in that. CD sound is nice and clean, and using a Music DVD is rather overkilly since you'd need to put s h i t l o a d s of music on it to be cost-effective. Have you ever tried how many MP3's fit on a single CD? Well over hundred.
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Offline Flipside

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DVD Audio wasn't about the amount of MP3's you could fit onto a disc though, any more than CDs are. MP3's are compressed and the quality suffers for it. CD Audio uses uncompressed 44KHz 16 Bit Audio, Audio DVD could have held more audio at 48Khz, 24 Bit surround.

The thing about all these formats is that you will hit a brick wall. For Video, I don't see much point to advanced DVD, 'quality' is all well and good, but things can just get silly to the point where the quality difference is only visible if you are sitting 2 inches from the screen. That's why I'm still not certain there is any real future to the HD Movie market.

 

Offline castor

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You can always build larger screens :D
Regarding the CD, its usually the recording/production/mastering that ruins the result, not the limitations of the CD standard.

 

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Man I wish I could give a **** about all the HD features etc. but I just don't want to use 30 DVD discs to back my ****ing hardrive up anymore.

Three BLURAYZ and that's goddamn it. They need to hurry the **** up with commercial availability/affordability.


 

Offline BloodEagle

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I'm going to laugh at all of the people who upgraded to Blueray/HD-DVD players when HVDs come out get popular with companies.

 

Offline CP5670

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Man I wish I could give a **** about all the HD features etc. but I just don't want to use 30 DVD discs to back my ****ing hardrive up anymore.

Three BLURAYZ and that's goddamn it. They need to hurry the **** up with commercial availability/affordability.

I'm also much more interested in Bluray as a data storage option and couldn't care less about movies. The drives are far too expensive to be viable right now but should come down in price over time.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Man I wish I could give a **** about all the HD features etc. but I just don't want to use 30 DVD discs to back my ****ing hardrive up anymore.

Three BLURAYZ and that's goddamn it. They need to hurry the **** up with commercial availability/affordability.

I'm also much more interested in Bluray as a data storage option and couldn't care less about movies. The drives are far too expensive to be viable right now but should come down in price over time.
Yeah, same here. My eyes are already falling behind on the resolution thing. There's little joy in a really high definition video if my eyes make it as blurry as DVD anyways.
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Offline Kosh

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Update: Looks like there is some evidence (albiet kind of circumstantial) Sony may have paid off Toshiba to drop HD-DVD.

http://slashdot.org/articles/08/02/23/139228.shtml


I still believe that one of the commentaries said it right: Business should be built around standards, not standards being built around business with the hope of making psuedo profits.
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