[captain-custard]

a balanced and healthy diet is possible without animal products of any kind , very few meat eaters have a healthy and balanced diet, i havent eaten meat or any animal product for more than 20 years , my work is physically and mentally demanding , at my last medical examination , i was told that i am much healtier than 90% of ppl who are 10years younger than me; im not a food fascist i still drink , smoke occasionaly etc , i dont force my views on anyone but i dont like the misinformation given out by the huge meat, milk conglomerates;;;;;;;; 10grams of sesame grains has more calcium than 100grams of a dairy product ......;;;;

anyway ill sit back and shut up

[Polpolion]

a balanced and healthy diet is possible without animal products of any kind , very few meat eaters have a healthy and balanced diet, i havent eaten meat or any animal product for more than 20 years , my work is physically and mentally demanding , at my last medical examination , i was told that i am much healtier than 90% of ppl who are 10years younger than me; im not a food fascist i still drink , smoke occasionaly etc , i dont force my views on anyone but i dont like the misinformation given out by the huge meat, milk conglomerates;;;;;;;; 10grams of sesame grains has more calcium than 100grams of a dairy product ......;;;;

anyway ill sit back and shut up

Yes, veggies are probably healthier than animals and whatnot, but you figure that most people just don't care. And I could see people who for some reason don't like how meats taste, or just think eat the flesh of another animal is revolting.

But personally, meats taste too good for me to give them up, and on top of that, and I don't really care enough about animal rights to even think about becoming a vegetarian.

You know what? When animals start acting like actual people and start paying taxes, then I'll want them to have rights and fair humane treatment. Until then, they're just things that are tasty, regardless of whether they're given the choice to be food or not. But this doesn't mean that I'm not against blatant torture of the animals, the less roughness the better; just don't be making them being comfy more important than people eating them.

[captain-custard]

You know what? When animals start acting like actual people and start paying taxes, then I'll want them to have rights and fair humane treatment. Until then, they're just things that are tasty, regardless of whether they're given the choice to be food or not. But this doesn't mean that I'm not against blatant torture of the animals, the less roughness the better; just don't be making them being comfy more important than people eating them.

just a quick  reply, your actions do have serious affects on human kind with a world using 2/3 of grain to feed animals to produce meat for 1/6 th of the ppl , so directly you affect the balance of farming in so many areas in the world and the difference between ppl being able to eat and being malnourished and poor......;;;;;

[Polpolion]

You know what? When animals start acting like actual people and start paying taxes, then I'll want them to have rights and fair humane treatment. Until then, they're just things that are tasty, regardless of whether they're given the choice to be food or not. But this doesn't mean that I'm not against blatant torture of the animals, the less roughness the better; just don't be making them being comfy more important than people eating them.

just a quick  reply, your actions do have serious affects on human kind with a world using 2/3 of grain to feed animals to produce meat for 1/6 th of the ppl , so directly you affect the balance of farming in so many areas in the world and the difference between ppl being able to eat and being malnourished and poor......;;;;;

Although I can see how I would contribute to that, it's no where near direct.

1) I don't buy the food for my family; even if I were vegetarian, my family would still buy meat.
2) Most of the grain they feed the animals isn't fit to feed to humans.
3) Even if they didn't feed the animals that grain, it wouldn't go to people in third world countries. It would go to other domestic products. (Assuming said portion is consumable by humans)


And what's with the random punctuation at the end of all of your posts?

[captain-custard]

And what's with the random punctuation at the end of all of your posts?

its random.....

[NGTM-1R]

As I pointed out earlier, a great deal of the dietary requirements we have (for optimum health) cannot be synthesized into an ingestible form.

Yet. That is very certainly a when and not an if.

[Janos]

And what's with the random punctuation at the end of all of your posts?

its random.....

it's also irritating.

[Nuke]

theres also the fact that untortured meat tastes better. comparing local butcher shop meat with the stuff they sell at wal mart. i can tell you what makes the better bbq. if not brutalizing the protein makes it tasty then stop brutalizing it. talk to the cows every day and pet them and they will never expect the nailgun.

[Mobius]

La Fiorentina

[Polpolion]

theres also the fact that untortured meat tastes better. comparing local butcher shop meat with the stuff they sell at wal mart. i can tell you what makes the better bbq. if not brutalizing the protein makes it tasty then stop brutalizing it. talk to the cows every day and pet them and they will never expect the nailgun.

Are you serious? We must stop this atrocious mistreatment of animals at once!

[Hellstryker]

He is. We buy all our meat, (except for ham slices and ground beef) from our local little butcher market.

[BlackDove]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

I don't know about you people, but I hate preparing food and then eating it. It's BORING and takes TIME. I'd much rather have a refridgerator filled with injection hypo's where I need to inject myself twice or three times a day, and be set, never having to eat again. I'll chew on some synthetic crap to keep my intestines active, but as far as nourishment go, I'd rather have a five second injection with all the vitamins minerals proteins whatever it is that I need, then eat.

Pills also work for me.

[BloodEagle]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

I don't know about you people, but I hate preparing food and then eating it. It's BORING and takes TIME. I'd much rather have a refridgerator filled with injection hypo's where I need to inject myself twice or three times a day, and be set, never having to eat again. I'll chew on some synthetic crap to keep my intestines active, but as far as nourishment go, I'd rather have a five second injection with all the vitamins minerals proteins whatever it is that I need, then eat.

Pills also work for me.

 

I don't know about you people, but I hate living. It's BORING and takes TIME. I'd much rather only have a husk filled with cyanide injections.

[Mustang19]

I don't know about you people, but I hate preparing food and then eating it. It's BORING and takes TIME.

QFT. Except cookies. And cupcakes.

[BlackDove]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

I don't know about you people, but I hate preparing food and then eating it. It's BORING and takes TIME. I'd much rather have a refridgerator filled with injection hypo's where I need to inject myself twice or three times a day, and be set, never having to eat again. I'll chew on some synthetic crap to keep my intestines active, but as far as nourishment go, I'd rather have a five second injection with all the vitamins minerals proteins whatever it is that I need, then eat.

Pills also work for me.

 

I don't know about you people, but I hate living. It's BORING and takes TIME. I'd much rather only have a husk filled with cyanide injections.

Yeah, we'd also like you to have those as well.

[Polpolion]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

Really? I personally believe that humanity should evolve an organ that can create nutrients out of our own waste, thus completely obviating the need to eat or excrete wastes, and in effect preventing us from physically growing and thus dooming humanity forever. I'm 100% positive that my progeny would be perfectly fine living as a blastocyst until their parents die of old age.

[BlackDove]

Sounds great. As long as I don't have to prepare or eat food.

[Ghostavo]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

Really? I personally believe that humanity should evolve an organ that can create nutrients out of our own waste, thus completely obviating the need to eat or excrete wastes, and in effect preventing us from physically growing and thus dooming humanity forever. I'm 100% positive that my progeny would be perfectly fine living as a blastocyst until their parents die of old age.

You'd still need to eat, unless you plan to remain a single cell for the rest of your life. And even if you only plan to use this ficticious organ in adult stage, you'd still need to eat to get energy, second law of thermodynamics and all that.

[Polpolion]

Personally I believe that one of the ways we're to evolve is to stop ending the life of other beings in order to continue ours (or to be more precise, stop being dependant on other beings to survive).

Really? I personally believe that humanity should evolve an organ that can create nutrients out of our own waste, thus completely obviating the need to eat or excrete wastes, and in effect preventing us from physically growing and thus dooming humanity forever. I'm 100% positive that my progeny would be perfectly fine living as a blastocyst until their parents die of old age.

1) I was being sarcastic
2) See red portion of post.
3) During cleavage, the cell size actually shrinks because you practically take the egg and chop it in half, and keep doing that with the daughter cells for the remainder of cleavage. I'm actually not certain if you would actually reach a blastocyst, though (as opposed to just a zygote).

[Ghostavo]

There is also the problem of growing that organ in the first place.