[MechMantis]

This brings up my next question and that is what will be the next major terran-vasudan project ?

We honestly have no clue.


Well, we do, but it's most likely a long term goal of the Alliance: the construction of a Knossos subspace portal to Sol. (Taken from the last cinematic of FS2)


But hey, theories abound.

[Jeff Vader]

it's most likely a long term goal of the Alliance: the construction of a Knossos subspace portal to Sol. (Taken from the last cinematic of FS2)

Ah, indeed. That too.

[The Spac]

the next T-V project is another war.

[Clawandfang]

the next T-V project is another war.

That really isn't quite as stupid an idea as I first though when I read that. After all, I can't imagine relations blossoming when/if the Terran-Vasudan Knossos portal means that the Terrans regain their homeworld, whilst the Vasudans are still homeless.

[Mars]

Well it's pretty obvious from the game relations aren't exactly stable

[AlphaOne]

Also who said that the Vasudans are homeless??? They have theyr heavely colonized sistems. In fact they bounced back a lot faster then the Terrans.

And yeah Knossos does indeed seem like the next major project. But i was talking something a bit smaller like a new ship design for both species you know same design for both terrans and vasudan. Unified sistems and standardization means cheaper ships with increased tech and stuff on them.

[Jeff Vader]

Also who said that the Vasudans are homeless??? They have theyr heavely colonized sistems. In fact they bounced back a lot faster then the Terrans.

That's the point. The Vasudans are "homeless", much in the same way as the Terrans are "homeless". Both races have lost their home planet, the planet they originated from. The distinct difference, however, is that for Terrans, it is possible to get back their homeworld and in a relatively short time, since they were only cut out from it. Whereas the Vasudans will most likely have to wait for universally lengthy time periods (millennia), before Vasuda Prime might become even remotely inhabitable.

[Mobius]

The Vasudans experienced an incredible economical progress after the first GW(just look at the Hatshepsut...only a few Typhons remain while most Terran destroyers are still Orions).

I don't recall a canon evidence about Vasuda Prime needing thousands of years to return back to its previous status.

[Jeff Vader]

I don't recall a canon evidence about Vasuda Prime needing thousands of years to return back to its previous status.[/color][/i]

Neither do I, but I'm making an educated guess based on a canon statement that "All major Vasudan cities were leveled, and most of the landmass was rendered uninhabitable.". In retrospect, several thousand years might be a little exaggerated, but nonetheless I'd assume it takes an arseful of time. Longer than opening the Sol node. Note: I'm guessing. No further canon to back up this assumption.

[Mobius]

"All major Vasudan cities" and "most of the landmass" clearly means that there are several habitable areas.

Well are floating cities something impossible to create?

[Jeff Vader]

Well if there are a handful of "habitable" land areas the size of an outhouse, it would still be difficult to inhabit the planet. And, ignoring Bespin, are there floating cities somewhere?

[AlphaOne]

Well in a way the Vasudans can still terraform of vasudaform or whatever they home planet into its previous state altough there was mostly desert and stuff to begin with so the only real challenge is to get everithing back on track. Like filling up crater holes and stuff.


Also The vasudans did not lose they powerhouse and economical center like the Terrans diod.

I mean the terrans had to rebuild shypyards orbital facilaties expand mining and refining bases etc. while the Vasudans altough lost a singinificant part of they economical base they still had somehwre to start with something stable.

Also it would be nice to see a new class of warhip designed for bot races. kinda like a universal space superiority fighter for both races or something

[blowfish]

Also it would be nice to see a new class of warhip designed for bot races. kinda like a universal space superiority fighter for both races or something

Look at the Lost Souls dump

[Clawandfang]

Well in a way the Vasudans can still terraform of vasudaform or whatever they home planet into its previous state altough there was mostly desert and stuff to begin with so the only real challenge is to get everithing back on track. Like filling up crater holes and stuff.

Heh...are there any terraformers in the canon? And what if the entire planet was saturated with radiaton? We don't know how the Lucifer's main guns work.

[AlphaOne]

Well you do have a point there. But , since a bomb, can explode with the equivalent of 500 or more gigatons and not radiate the pilots of the bombers or the fighter pilots in the area to death then it is safe to asume they have a pretty good understanding of how to deal with such problems as radiation and stuff. Also they can go pretty deap into a nebula or pretty close to the stars of different sistems and not get radiated to death so we can asume they have precautions put in place.

Also it is not said that all of Vasuda Prime was leveled and rendered uninhabitable but rather "most major cities and land masses" . If radiation was teh case then the whole planet would of been uninhabitable so it is safe to asume they meant something else.


Also the Vasudans lost just one planet out of all they colonies. The Terrans lost basicly the majoraty of its population shipyards reaserach facilaties mining operations etc. perhaps more then 90% .

So in a way it was rather harder for the Terrans to rebuild then for the Terrans .

Also this whole thing about another terran vasudan war is not something that would be apreciated especialy now after the destruction of the capella star . The GTVA already lost important amount of ships and pilots in the war against the NTF and the shivans. So a war would be the last thing on they minds. In fact survial is the prime objective behind everithing they do and a war does anithing but increase the chances of survival.

Also it is important to note that the Vasudans can hold no grudge against the terrans that were not homicidal maniacs of the GTVA since fromwhat we can see the terrans got the full force of the NTF attack's . Why well because the terrans did most of the fighting. It was somehow only normal for them to do this. Sure there was vasudan involvement in the conflict but not to the extent of the terrans .

Dont think bad of the Vasudans either since they were mostly involved in keeping the refugee convois safe as well as the vasudan sistems or sistems with vasudan presence in them. Deneb might be such a sistem.

As for joint terran vasudan project it is safe to asume they will continue with the existing programs and advance them like the pilot exchange program . It was a succesfull program . also there is at least some indication of the standardization of some sistems in GTVA fighters and bommbers this is drawn form the easyness with which the vasudans modify their own ships to acomodate terrans in them.

What would be of course really ool is to see a terran-vasudan hibrid warship . Now that would be awesome.

As for the Iceni beeing a plotline i say this to you its in game it has specs and the works so its a canon ship . While there is a debate to weather is was originaly a GTVA project or not the fact that the ship exists can not be denied. As for the random placement of its weapons well the same can be said about many other warships in FS2 . (Collie is just one ship that comes to mind) . The fact that its weapons are places in a forward firing ark is by no means strange or unless the ravana is just as strange or the Sath .

[Akalabeth Angel]

Well you do have a point there. But , since a bomb, can explode with the equivalent of 500 or more gigatons and not radiate the pilots of the bombers or the fighter pilots in the area to death then it is safe to asume they have a pretty good understanding of how to deal with such problems as radiation and stuff. Also they can go pretty deap into a nebula or pretty close to the stars of different sistems and not get radiated to death so we can asume they have precautions put in place.

     Er, protecting against radiation and getting rid of radiation across an entire planet are two different things. All ships in space need to be shielded from radiation anyway. Look at it this way, a person can keep dry by wearing a garbage bag in the rain. But if your houses is flooded with 6 feet of water in the basement, and therefore is unlivable, is that garbage bag gonna help in any way whatsoever? No.

[AlphaOne]

You have a point however radiation does  not explain why "most of the planet's ....." was deemed uninhabitable . Why not declare Vasuda Prime a dead planet to begin with???

[blowfish]

I doubt it had to do with radiation.  Its probable that the beam could have produced tectonic instability and big holes in the crust of the planet (or something like that), and also a lot of dust, gas, and ash spewed into the atmosphere.  Not a fun place to live in.  Even if parts of the surface were left untouched, it would not be worth trying to live in those areas.

[AlphaOne]

Agreed they will have to wait for everithing to settle down and then attempt to rebuild everithing. Well scarre or not at least they have a Homeworld to look at ! And all of they former planets are intact

[Mobius]

Well if there are a handful of "habitable" land areas the size of an outhouse, it would still be difficult to inhabit the planet. And, ignoring Bespin, are there floating cities somewhere?

The Vasudans could use the same concept engineers who designed skyscreapers had in mind and build immense cities. Mushroom-shaped ones could be more effective.