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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
The problem with that interpretation is the final five who are now aware of their Cylon-ness do not come from such a society. Their memories, if anything, are those of human society, yet they're still portrayed as being more vicious. Which does not make sense for the circumstances; there is a disconnect between them and Cylon society at large yet both are written the same way.
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Neither Tori, Chief, nor Anders showed any sign of a vicious personality prior to becoming aware of their state as Cylons. Tigh has never really been vicious in the same manner as Tori or other Cylons - rather than dispassionately causing pain, his suicide bombing was more of an emotional attack. Killing his wife was a very consistent thing for him to do.

After the revelation, I'd say that only Tori has really become 'vicious', and she seems to be the one most entranced with her Cylon side. Chief, apparently, has grown cold and distant (assuming his relationship with Calli is related to the revelation of his Cylonship), but that's not exactly unusual for Chief.

Anders has been practically unaffected, aside from that sticking-his-hand-in-Cylon-goo thing.

Tigh seems to be having some problems with waking dreams, but he doesn't really seem to be embarking in any gross cruelty...except with the Six, which is exactly what you'd expect from him prior to that anyway.

For the most part, the final five couldn't be portrayed as more vicious, because characters like Chief and Anders were (or so the podcasts say) supposed to be only minor characters. Since then, I don't see their reactions as being any more suspicious than knowing that they're considered sworn enemies of the fleet and would probably be locked up and interrogated if the truth was known. That's bound to put some distance between them and others. (Again, Tori excepted, who seems to relish the idea of being a Cylon and having that flexible morality to hang on to).
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Wait, how is sleeping with Caprica Six something we would've expected from an earlier Tigh? That was my interpretation of what's going on, at least.

 

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Going in and interrogating her/assaulting her. I think he's probably more vicious because he knows he's a Cylon and is taking out his anger on her, not because he's just being vicious for the sake of being vicious. Tigh has always been just as flawed as Starbuck, but just as willing to lash out.

Hell, you could argue Gaeta (stabbing Baltar in the neck), Roslin (flushing Cylons out the airlock), Adama (threatening to kill Callie), Cain (shooting her XO in the head, etc) or Starbuck (pick an encounter) have all displayed 'vicious' tendencies.
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Dude, Caprica Six assaulted Tigh. Not the other way around. I mean, he may have started it, but he got his ass kicked.

And then I'm pretty sure they started having sex. More than once, apparently, given hints dropped over the last few episodes.

  

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I grieve because my portable HD had ALL the BSG seasons, and I LOST it.
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I grieve because my portable HD had ALL the BSG seasons, and I LOST it.

Lost as in "can't find" or lost as in "oh **** I dropped my coke"?

 

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Lost as in "can't find" or lost as in "oh **** I dropped my coke"?
Lost as in "Holy Mary Mother of Jesus I left it behind in school!"
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* cannot wait for tommorrow!
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WARNING!!! HUGE SPOILER

Spoiler:
Adama steps down and is no longer head of the military
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*bump*

Did she just say that Roslin is the final cylon? :eek:
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Wow, that was a really good episode. 
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The fight between Tigh and Adama was great, Adama staying behind in the raptor, Lee as the new president.  Just wow.

Edit:  Looks as if next week's episode is mid-season finale, aye?
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going to have to catch up on the last episode, luckily I found a portable hard drive with them all on

 

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Wow, that was a really good episode. 
Spoiler:
The fight between Tigh and Adama was great, Adama staying behind in the raptor, Lee as the new president.  Just wow.

Edit:  Looks as if next week's episode is mid-season finale, aye?

No, there are two more, titled 'The Hub' and 'Revelations.'

So, I'm going to guess that they'll be at Earth by the mid-season cliffhanger.

That episode was great. I totally called the
Spoiler:
Tigh/Six love-child
last week!

Also, did everyone catch what happened with Lampkin's cat? Every live appearance of the cat this episode was Lampkin hallucinating; it's been dead for weeks. I didn't get that on my first viewing, and I was really confused.

So, in addition to the HeadSix and HeadBaltar, we've now got HeadLancetheCat.

 

Offline watsisname

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No, there are two more, titled 'The Hub' and 'Revelations.'

So, I'm going to guess that they'll be at Earth by the mid-season cliffhanger.

That episode was great. I totally called the
Spoiler:
Tigh/Six love-child
last week!

Also, did everyone catch what happened with Lampkin's cat? Every live appearance of the cat this episode was Lampkin hallucinating; it's been dead for weeks. I didn't get that on my first viewing, and I was really confused.

So, in addition to the HeadSix and HeadBaltar, we've now got HeadLancetheCat.

Yeah, I didn't catch that cat-hallucination thing until my 2nd time watching the episode.  I was confused at first when Lee says "The cat's been dead for weeks." as I was like "Wait, there's no way weeks have gone by in that time span..."

Another interesting thing I didn't catch the first time is what I think is the first direct reference to artificial gravity, when Racetrack checks out the dead Raptor.  Cool beans. :yes:
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Offline Polpolion

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So, I'm going to guess that they'll be at Earth by the mid-season cliffhanger.

Blegh... That'd stink.

They set up the entire series to have the arrival at Earth be the goal of everyone's plight. IMHO they should either start wrapping up everyone's more minor problems before they get to Earth and then have Earth complete the series by helping the colonials (whether that be provide asylum from the hostile cylons or armed protection; it's the colonials original problem), or tie in all of the solution to the arrival at Earth. Either way, they should hold off the arrival at Earth to the last possible second, barring epilogues of course.

If the had the fleet arrive at Earth mid-season, they'd be climaxing the series way too early. Everything else past that IMHO would be falling action and just be lame compared to that, unless they downplayed the arrival. If they did that, then the series isn't worth watching anymore because that's one of the main premises to the show, and solving that early only creates the "wat we do now?" issue.

If they didn't downplay the arrival, they'd need to make the entire second half of the season into a huge finale, which would probably wouldn't be quite as bad as downplaying the arrival.

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On an unrelated note,

Complexity in a show is good, but with such a large delay between the broadcast of each episode, the more the episodes need to become independent of each other. Otherwise they become one huge 40 hour movie, or an unabridged screenplay of a 1500 page book. And that's not easy to watch at biweekly intervals. IMHO they should try and go back to the two or three episode sub-series dealing with relatively small facets of the show, and have various less blatant issues string everything together, along with the main goal of reaching Earth being the primary "trunk" of the series.

It seems in the latter series they're sort of getting that, but the plots for each individual episode don't really go anywhere. These subplots are way to vague, and they're not providing enough substance from the main plot (well at least in episode 8) for that to be the main focus.

This given, the show is still bounds better than any other television show I can think of. The entire thing has an encompassing plot, yet the episodes still retain a certain essence of independantness (although that could be a bit stronger).

Also, I was disappointed that they didn't say anything about Geta. I'm assuming he's still in the sickbay with his single leg, or did he die?

 

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From the sounds of it...whenever we do get to Earth its not going to be all roses.  I think its going to end on a rough or somber note.
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Agreed.

Gaeta's still alive. He wouldn't have died offscreen.

 

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Does anybody disagree that Roslin's the fifth cylon? 
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Does anybody disagree that Roslin's the fifth cylon? 

IMHO it's just as likely that Starbuck is the  last cylon as Roslin.