[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

So, Raiders can't resurrect any more either...

Wonder what that means for the future of Cylon tactics?

[IceFire]

I have a question...

Spoiler:

Whats stopping the Cylons from building another resurrection hub and whats wrong with all of the resurrection ships now?  If they were smart at hacking networks you'd think they would be good at building networks and not having single points of failure.  The hub is definitely one such thing.  Maybe they were a little overconfident with the security of the hub...arrogant even...so maybe the idea is that they are just as flawed as their creators.

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

They probably can, but it might be really prohibitive in time and resources. It's been suggested this season that resurrection ships are just servers for the central hub -- they may have the gear necessary to do signals collection and some part of the resurrection process, but not all the necessary equipment to run everything autonomously, or even in a network.

So they could do it -- it'd probably just take forever.

[jdjtcagle]

Spoiler:

Are we supposed to be to Earth this fast?

That was so awesome.  I know I saw Earth in that preview but why no fifth cylon? Unless, the fifth is on the basestar. Hmmm it's going to be great episode!

[Kosh]

This whole civil war thing makes me wonder if the cylon fleet we see is just an expeditionary force to track down galactica and maybe do some exploration, or is that everything they have?

[Polpolion]

Spoiler:

Whats stopping the Cylons from building another resurrection hub and whats wrong with all of the resurrection ships now?  If they were smart at hacking networks you'd think they would be good at building networks and not having single points of failure.  The hub is definitely one such thing.  Maybe they were a little overconfident with the security of the hub...arrogant even...so maybe the idea is that they are just as flawed as their creators.

Spoiler:

I actually conjecture that it's a calibration type thing; The people who can download need to be made after the hub is made, otherwise they won't sync or whatnot! Well, I actually have no basis for that statement except the conjecture that things are always 100x more complicated than they seem.

[General Battuta]

That's fairly clever, thesizzler. I like it.

[jdjtcagle]

Spoiler:

Info for next episode: *  This episode is the mid-season cliffhanger for the first ten episodes of Season 4. The "conclusion" to the cliffhanger, "Sometimes a Great Notion", will not air until 2009.

[Polpolion]

Spoiler:

Info for next episode: *  This episode is the mid-season cliffhanger for the first ten episodes of Season 4. The "conclusion" to the cliffhanger, "Sometimes a Great Notion", will not air until 2009.

Yeah I felt really sad when Axem told me yesterday as well.

[WMCoolmon]

Spoiler:

I actually conjecture that it's a calibration type thing; The people who can download need to be made after the hub is made, otherwise they won't sync or whatnot! Well, I actually have no basis for that statement except the conjecture that things are always 100x more complicated than they seem.

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I suspect the Hub has something to do with the group consciousness of the Cylons, ie the hub servers to store the memories of Cylons, while the Resurrection Ship serves simply to resurrect the body and copy the data over from the hub. Resurrection ships may have no ability to store memories to prevent iced Cylons from resurrecting - the mental essence would instead get sent to the hub and the iced Cylon wouldn't resurrect, allowing for centralized control over the Resurrection process and (theoretically) preventing rebellion.

What's interesting to me about the Hub is that it's relatively new - it's obviously of more recent Cylon design than the hybrid ship - and it also seems to imply that the Cylons are actually a space-based race. Otherwise you would expect that the Hub would be located on a planet simply because it was built there first.

What's also interesting is that it didn't have a backup FTL drive in that other little spire thing. One would think that the Cylons would, at some point, realize the value of backups on their backup ship. They didn't have one on the Resurrection ship either, and none of the Colonial ships appear to have one. Makes me wonder if the FTL drives cause some kind of interference or has immense standby power requirements that prevent them from being installed on a ship that already has one.

[General Battuta]

I had the good fortune to be aware of the divided season a long time ago.

On the plus side, the delay means they've had a really long while to rewrite and rework the final ten episodes (they said this was what they'd spent most of the writer's strike doing.)

[jdjtcagle]

[Hellstryker]

QFT

[blowfish]

I think that sums it up pretty well.

[watsisname]

Christ, that was just a complete mindfrack, all the way through.   

Obligatory spoilers and personal thoughts:

Spoiler:

I totally loved the first half of the episode.  The chaos only grew more intense as the final cylons inevitably either came forward or were revealed, while the conflict between D'anna and Lee threatened to spell the end of humanity.  Meanwhile Adama suffers nervous breakdown upon learning that Tigh is one of the Cylons, and Kara discovers that somehow her viper is recieving a signal that leads directly to Earth or some such.  It was all very exciting up to the point that everyone was made aware of this signal, and suddenly all of the tension that had built up just collapsed and suddenly everyone's all "Zomg, now we can get to Earth, let's all hold hands and sing."  It just felt like a huge let down.  Instead of finally getting to Earth in some epic mindblowing fashion, it just felt utterly cheesy.  With only 5 minutes left of the episode I knew there had to be something more to it as they all landed on Earth.  Sure enough everyone gets out and walks around with the realization that Earth is completely wasted.  Wow.

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

The reason that the 'hold hands and get along' twist wasn't a total letdown was because it revealed something important in a single line of dialogue: "someone or something wants us [Human and Cylon] to go to Earth together."

[Nuke]

holy **** my plan succeeds!

[WMCoolmon]

Spoiler:

I was kinda disappointed. It felt rushed after all the episodes - kind of like "We're going to have this big 6-month gap here, we need to tie everything up nicely but still have something there to keep people watching." I dunno, maybe I've seen BSG enough to just recognize the pattern. I didn't feel any real drama - just a sense of frustration at D'anna for trying to get everybody killed by being impatient. Of course it did work to her advantage to try and force the Cylons out into the open as such, which was the point, and I suppose the overarching larger theme of the episode, but it did feel like a gimmick to get things cleaned up so fast and get them to earth by the end of the episode, with just enough time for a twist.

Was that real-world wreckage in the background, or something by the BSG team? Might be interesting if you could date that. For some reason, it looked to me like they were hanging out at San Francisco...

EDIT:

Spoiler:

Ending music was good though. And I love D'Anna's expression when they get to earth.

[watsisname]

Spoiler:

Was that real-world wreckage in the background, or something by the BSG team? Might be interesting if you could date that. For some reason, it looked to me like they were hanging out at San Francisco...

Spoiler:

I think it was Manhattan.  Note carefully the remains of the bridge.

[MP-Ryan]

Spoiler:

I'd say they hit Earth either in an alternate timeline from our own (possible) or sometime in the future after a natural disaster or apocalyptic war.

Looking at the wreckage, I'm kind of wondering if its the future result of global weather gone awry.