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Offline nvsblmnc

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There's a rifle/smg that's made an appearance in several games and tv series, and I've been trying to find out what it's really called.  All I find, though, are references to the games and series that I already know about.

It's been in:
Perfect Dark (As the RC-P120)
Chrome (as the Matson CAFS)
UT2K4 (Can't remember what it was called)
Lost Panet (although I think that might have been a FAMAS)
And it was also used in at least one episode of Stargate SG-1, before they went back to the P-90s.

Does anyone know if it's based on a real weapon, or is it just a cool-looking prop?
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I think they are all based on the P90.
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The Perfect Dark RC-P120 is not an actual gun.  It looks like the used the FN P90 for inspiration but its not a real weapon that I know about.

Don't know some of the other references.  Which SG-1 episode?  There is only a couple of episodes in SG-1 where they use a rifle I didn't know (that was in Avenger 2.0 and Lost City).  In Season 9 & 10 there were some appearances of a G-36 and a few MP7s.
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They look like a cross between the real life FN-P90, always a darling of the gaming industryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90,  and the M-41A pulse rifle from aliens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M41a.  Both known for their futuristic design, and absurd magazine capacities.

 

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There's a rifle/smg that's made an appearance in several games and tv series, and I've been trying to find out what it's really called.  All I find, though, are references to the games and series that I already know about.

It's been in:
Perfect Dark (As the RC-P120)
Chrome (as the Matson CAFS)

UT2K4 (Can't remember what it was called)
Lost Panet (although I think that might have been a FAMAS)
And it was also used in at least one episode of Stargate SG-1, before they went back to the P-90s.

Does anyone know if it's based on a real weapon, or is it just a cool-looking prop?

These look like a hybrid of FAMAS and P90 to me.
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You're probably thinking of the H&K G36K, the compact carbine version of the G36 rifle.  It chambers 5.56mm NATO rounds.

The standard G36K (in use today) has been used in modified forms, such as that pulse rifle, in several movies and games.  It looks somewhat similar to Fabrique Nationale's FAMAS.
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You're probably thinking of the H&K G36K, the compact carbine version of the G36 rifle.  It chambers 5.56mm NATO rounds.

The standard G36K (in use today) has been used in modified forms, such as that pulse rifle, in several movies and games.  It looks somewhat similar to Fabrique Nationale's FAMAS.

Heyyyy, the Aliens pulse rifle wasn't a modified G36K...or do you mean one of the other ones he provided?

 
The M41 predated the G36K.  It was a Tommy gun and a shotgun in a plastic case, iirc.

 

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All you ever wanted to know about the Aliens weapon:  http://www.m41a.com/
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I have a suspicion that we're talking about several different weapons in all of those various sources and they have just been misidentified as being the same weapon.

It does happen...many tend to look similar at first.  I thought for a little while that the rifles used in Battlestar Galactica were FN SCAR's until I had a closer look and realized they weren't.  Forget what they were actually...but I had tracked it down at one point.
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IceFire's probably right.

www.carnwyffa.u-net.com/GUNS/g36ccomparison.jpg

That's the G36K on top, and the G36C on bottom.
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The G36 is a really interesting weapons family.  There is also the MG36 and the G36E (which I think is a export version lacking some features I think).  I really like the 36C...such a compact design for what amounts to nearly a full fledged rifle with some tradeoffs.
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sorta like the AR15, M16, and M4? all are basically the same but with minor differences, and nowhere as cool a the G36
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Well the AR15 to my knowledge is just a civilian version of the M16.  The M4 is a shortened carbine of the M16...but there is no MG or sniper variation to my knowledge from the M16.  Nothing in wide use that I know about.  Most of the newer rifles are a family of variations from the start like the G36, the XM8 prototypes (canned apparently), Type 95, etc.
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Well the AR15 to my knowledge is just a civilian version of the M16.  The M4 is a shortened carbine of the M16...but there is no MG or sniper variation to my knowledge from the M16.  Nothing in wide use that I know about.  Most of the newer rifles are a family of variations from the start like the G36, the XM8 prototypes (canned apparently), Type 95, etc.

The AR-15 is a rifle that was considered for use by the military, the M-16 is the modification of the AR-15 that was accepted.
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Well the AR15 to my knowledge is just a civilian version of the M16.  The M4 is a shortened carbine of the M16...but there is no MG or sniper variation to my knowledge from the M16.  Nothing in wide use that I know about.  Most of the newer rifles are a family of variations from the start like the G36, the XM8 prototypes (canned apparently), Type 95, etc.

Actually, the M4 is a different weapon altogether.  M16's chamber a 7.62mm NATO round; the M4 chambers a 5.56mm NATO round.  The carbine design is based on the design of the M16, but in terms of its ballistics its quite a different firearm.

The AR15 is the design prototype (AR = assault rifle) for the AR-15 civilian variant, M-16, and M-4 design, but the AR15 is also based off the 5.56mm cartridge as opposed to the 7.62mm.  Interestingly, an AR-15 is really nothing more than a high-powered .22 calibre semiautomatic rifle; 5.56mm NATO rounds are merely steel-jacketed .22 calibre rounds with extended powder capacity; the next evolution of the .22LR ammunition type.  They travel faster and farther than a .22LR round, but the actual diameter is nearly identical.

The G36 family consists primary of the G36 (long rifle), G36K (carbine), and G36C (Commado; short-barelled CQB weapon based loosely off the H&K's UMP design).  Like the M16 family, the long rifle chambers 7.62mm ammunition while the shorter carbine and commando variants are 5.56mm.
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The M16 and M4 are both chambered for 5.56. Ballistically speaking the M4s muzzle velocity is slightly slower and it's slightly less accurate. Practically the M4 jams quadruple from the M16 in the field

AR10 is about as close as you're gonna find to a 7.62 NATO M16

Oh... and the M-16 has many varients Wikipedia

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