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Combine the Bigg battles from the Following
EarthMinbari War/Dilgar War/Shadow War/Drakh War/Both EA Civil War (2nd one refered to in Deconstuction of Falling Stars) > Babylon5
All big battles from the Star Wars films
The dominion War + Battle of Wolf 359 + Battle of Sector 001 (ST First Contact) from Star Trek
The Time War (Doctor Who)
And that will be the scale of The Last Battle Against the ShivansTM

In the words of Dr Leonard H. McCoy, Son of David McCoy: "we're talking about universal armageddon"

Youd need a whole floor of servers to deal with the lag

Well you won't need much, especially with the Time war stuff.  Everyone else will mostly erased.   :lol:
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Offline starlord

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Well, if the shivans are a hive mind (as some of us suspect), then the last fight might primarily focus on their biggest unit: the one that serves their entire coordination (their nexus). Once destroyed, it would end the war for good while ensuring the distruction of the rest of the fleet. I always thought that the shivans were not researching any new ship designs but were displaying them in a huge sphere corresponding to their territory with the most heavy and lethal units near the core of the sphere (wherever might that be) and the least dangerous units (like the FS1 fleet) in it's extremities. And of course, given the threat of the potential adversaries, ships would be rotated in and out of the layers of that sphere. Destroy the core, and everything blows.

What about descent pyrotechnics? or trench runs? If the SW guys can plan an attack against a 160KM diameter death star and the babylon project guys can include a shadow planet killer in their game, then why not?

What could be the heaviest shivan unit? I once heard the behemoth... I would give the following names perhaps: Kali or hecatonshirus.

 
It should be an entire planet converted into a spaceship or space station
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I told you, I read somewhere that Volition commented to "think bigger" than super-juggernauts. Can't find a quote.

 

Offline starlord

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I don't get it! Why wouldn't V contribute storywise in continuing the saga with fan made campaigns like this?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Because they didn't know where the story was going to go next, beyond general supposition.

Because it would be a stupid move if, by some chance, they ever did an actual FS3.

Because it would quash creativity on the part of the fanbase by designating some ideas as canon, or at least better-then-fanon.

 

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suppositions are all we have today! it's better than nothing. I would kill to hear the signification of the "much bigger problem" the shivans were only a symptom of, or the "think bigger than a uber mega juggernaut" directive.

FS3 could basically be a campaign before being a game. FS's legendary flexibility would allow that (authors of another game with a huge fan base have done that once). And we know that a "real" FS3 game is unlikely.

I don't think fan creativity would suffer. Herhaps all views would not be canon, but does that matter? a few FS1 campaigns depicted the end of the shivan war even before FS2 came out, and I'm sure they are regarded as good campaigns nevertheless.

In short, I think it's a win scenario.


 
suppositions are all we have today! it's better than nothing. I would kill to hear the signification of the "much bigger problem" the shivans were only a symptom of, or the "think bigger than a uber mega juggernaut" directive.

Did you not read what Battuta said? :v: themselves didn't know exactly what they were going to do. I'm sure they had a very general idea, but nothing specific, and therefore nothing you'd be looking for.

FS3 could basically be a campaign before being a game. FS's legendary flexibility would allow that (authors of another game with a huge fan base have done that once). And we know that a "real" FS3 game is unlikely.

Read this.
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Offline starlord

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I'm sure I would like to know what that "general idea" might be. :nod:

If volition's behind it and supplying those "general ideas", then possibly a FS3 might be born... However, I could be wrong...

Also, when I meant a "real" FS3, I meant a retail game from Volition. Not a user campaign claming to be FS3.

 

Offline terran_emperor

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Well maybe if the campaign was good enough to get praised from one of the original FS team, yet not backed by :v: the campaign could be an  "unofficially official" continuation.

Just like Sonic the Comic-Online, the fan made continuation of the Europian Sonic the Hedgehog comic series, is praised and suppoerted by many of the original writers, yet not backed by Eggmont Fleetway or Sega
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Is that still going :eek2: I'm off to google that RIGHT NOW !

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There will never (confidence: very high) be a retail FS3 from Volition.

 

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I meant Sonic the COmic :D
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I know, it was addressed to folks above you. You of all people would know no FS3 is coming, Dekkor -- you've been around a while.

 

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I been here since at least 01 as my old squadname.

*as JK47,.....maybe 99.

Dammit, I can't actually remember what i used to look at on the net before HLP came about, probably Newgrounds.
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The point im making is while there will never be an official Freespace 3, there is the chance of making an "unofficially official" version.

So far the two prime candidates are IMHO Blue Planet (When all chapters are done) and INF SCP (When released). Hell everyone was saying that Inf R1 was almost FS3


BTW to moderators sorry abput this shameless plug

As for sonic the Comic, the official vesion you could buy in the newsagents was discontinues ages ago. the last original story was an adaptation of Sonic Adventure, then it went all reprints before being discontinued.
But it was revived and continued as a Webcomic by fans about a year later. Eggmont Fleetway (original publisher) and sega have not endorsed it, however it is praised by many of the original writers/artists
I highly recomend that anyone who used to read Sonic the comic check it out http://www.stconline.co.uk/.
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Offline General Battuta

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No, there is no chance at a fan-made 'unofficially official' FS3, because nobody would agree on anything about it. No V, no FS3.

No, INFR1 was never considered 'almost FS3'.

These are stock answers, all debated a hundred thousand times. We definitely don't need to start another FS3 argument, so I will stop here.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Did anyone actually read that little chapter on kara's FAQ? A usermade FS3 doesn't work. If someone makes it, it is kind of rude to claim that that one is FS3. If everyone participates, it will not be easy to reach an agreement on the plot, and even if it succeeds, everyone will already know what happens in it and playing it won't be so exciting. At least I would still prefer the method we've had so far. Let people do campaigns. Let them share their visions of what might happen after FS2. It is fun. It is nice to see what visions other people have about the matter. And it is cool. But picking one out of 'em and calling it FS3... no.
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01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

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Offline starlord

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I agree, but might volition be ANY user?

Didn't the FAQ say: "if it ain't volition, it ain't FS3"? But what if volition was making the campaign?

In case I'm becoming a nuisance, tell me and I'll stop posting. I truly mean no harm in asking those questions and I fully respect that paragraph of the FAQ (I personnally think the same). But the question is, what if Volition continued the story THEMSELVES?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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:v: is :v:. But I doubt that would happen. Most likely they are interested in the luxury of eating. That means they have to work. That means that they can't just make a campaign but should rather do an actual game so that it could be sold and they could make money. And over the years and even currently it seems highly unlikely that they'd be interested in making FS3. They have other projects. Projects that are more likely to make money. The space sim genre isn't doing exactly well, so puking out FS3 would be a huge financial risk.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

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