i found wires thin enough to let me cram 16 of them through the tube in the gimbal of the joystick of doom. this will allow me to wire the buttons in the grip to my 6x6 matrix board (built out of crappy old radioshack strip board and scrap parts, and a signal diode for each of the 36 button ports, but it works well). i kinda wanted to use the existing 2x4 matrix board that is in the handle, which i just figured out how works, but it uses transistors and my board uses diodes, and im not sure how to make them play nice with each other (it would entail bypassing parts of the board). i could also decode it with a microcontroller, i have an attiny 2313 which would be cool for that kinda thing, all io and no analog, but it seems like unnecessary complexity. of course im going to do it the brute force way, by stuffing 16 tiny wires down the tube. il cut the traces on the matrix board in the joystick grip so i can tap into the buttons directly, then use my matrix board. its late, so this is a project for tomorrow.