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Offline tinfoil

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Maybe i just suck but...
I can't seem to complete the mission in fs2 where you have to take out 2 of the sath's main beams. i just end up failing 5 times and moving on
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Sounds like you do...
Well, just take out the beam cannons. Or at least two of them. A dual Helios can do remarkable things, when fired from an appropriate distance. And do call in the support ship.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline tinfoil

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
haven't tried dual fire might make it easiar (or faster which is more the problem)
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Offline Art Kelson

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
Basically what I did was...

1. order all Ships to attack one of the Beams (obviously the one that´s closer)
2. give your Engine full power for more acceleration
3. hit the Afterburners
4. if your within Range of Rockets (not Torpedos), set your Shields to full power and fire all Rockets
5. After all Rockets are fired switch to Torpedo, log in, fire within very close Range (not so close that it hits you)
6. the same for second Beam

...theres a alternative. You could simply fire anything you have at the Beams, then reload your Weapons and make another run. But it took me much to much time, with second Variant...never made it this way.

Just make sure all Fighters/Bombers concentrate on one Beam. Fire your Torpedos as close as possible...i even got so close they hit me, but on the other Hand, if I was to far away, the Torps never reached their Targets.

Suit your Fighter with Torpedos and normal or swarm Rockets. They will do 20-40% Damage on Beam and can be fired long before the Torpedos got in Range.
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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
I always cheated at this mission :rolleyes:

Actually, the second half of the Freespace campaign I cheated through on my first playthrough those years ago...

Basically what I did was...

1. order all Ships to attack one of the Beams (obviously the one that´s closer)
2. give your Engine full power for more acceleration
3. hit the Afterburners
4. if your within Range of Rockets (not Torpedos), set your Shields to full power and fire all Rockets
5. After all Rockets are fired switch to Torpedo, log in, fire within very close Range (not so close that it hits you)
6. the same for second Beam

...theres a alternative. You could simply fire anything you have at the Beams, then reload your Weapons and make another run. But it took me much to much time, with second Variant...never made it this way.

Just make sure all Fighters/Bombers concentrate on one Beam. Fire your Torpedos as close as possible...i even got so close they hit me, but on the other Hand, if y I was to far away, the Trops never reached theyr Targets.

Suit your Fighter with Torpedos and normal or swarm Rockets. They will do 20-40% Damage on Beam and can be fired long before the Torpedos got in Range.

You mean the trebuchet? ;)
Fun while it lasted.

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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
Dual fire is quite handy. When the mission starts, summon a support ship and fly at the best possible speed towards one of the beam cannons. Fire a dual Helios at it, evade and go for the next one. Repeat. Then, stop so that the support ship can reach you. Again, assault a beam cannon, and then the last one. Then, take some distance to the Sath before it jumps away and order more torpedoes if you feel you need them for the Beleth.

if your within Range of Rockets (not Torpedos), ... Suit your Fighter with Torpedos and normal or swarm Rockets.
1. There is only one fighter capable of carrying torpedoes.
2. This is a scramble mission.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline Art Kelson

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
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You mean the trebuchet?

Yeah, the one with extended Range. It deals a pretty good blow to that Beams.

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1. There is only one fighter capable of carrying torpedoes.
2. This is a scramble mission.

Don´t remember the exact Loadout of my Wingmans, I usually let them like normal. But I know i made it, by using Torpedos and Trebuchets. Hit the Afterburners to get to the Beam as fast as possible and then hit them combined with my Wingmens. Took me about 2 Minutes to take one down. But it takes a whole lot of Time to get to the other one and make another run.

You can´t just fly to the second Beam and fire the Torps, they will get destroyed 99%. But if you make a straight ahead attack, they always hit.

Oh wait. I remember. The first Beam got down pretty fast. And it wasn´t my Torpedo...so something else probably hit it.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 02:51:10 pm by Art Kelson »
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
But I know i made it, by using Torpedos and Trebuchets.
Indeed. Because that is the assigned loadout for this scramble mission. You cannot change it without editing the mission file.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Maybe i just suck but...
haven't tried dual fire might make it easiar (or faster which is more the problem)

      Dude, I always fire dual fire. The only time when I don't is when: 1 will be enough to the damage I want to do, or I want to conserve ammo. Against the Sathanas, neither one holds true. Get closer to the beam and launch your bombs, so close that the Sathanas doesn't have time to shoot them down. Then switch launchers and fire the other bombs.
 
      Also when you need to reload, you can call the ship before you'reactually out of ammo. Call it so that after you do launch your last pair, you're really close to reload again right away.

 
Re: Maybe i just suck but...
i cheated through the second part of that campaign too... 'cept for the last 3... i just wanted to find out how it ended... SSL FTW!

the only time i dont use dual fire is if it's a really weak enemy (like an astaroth) or if i'm trying to conserve my torps.
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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
I actually managed to take down all 4.

The Sath just sat there in the fight with the Collosus and the Collosus ended with 100% armor.

Unfortunately, the Collossus "suffered moderate damage" and had 85 armor at the next battle.

It sucks.
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Offline Rodo

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
yeah my colossus did not get beamed at all, but it got very injured as the debreafing guy said..... internal problems with the generators i can believe but extenced hull damage hoho ^^

For me, probably the most difficult mission was the one where you had to bring down the ravana on the nebula, that was a tough one to beat...

el hombre vicio...

  

Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
yeah my colossus did not get beamed at all, but it got very injured as the debreafing guy said..... internal problems with the generators i can believe but extenced hull damage hoho ^^

Somebody spilled coke on the weapons console...
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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
Yeah. The Collossus overcharges its beams when it doesnt even have it.

It could just have sat there and taken down the Collosus with its BGreens...
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Offline Kie99

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
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You mean the trebuchet?

Yeah, the one with extended Range. It deals a pretty good blow to that Beams.

Does about 2% damage in my experience.
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Offline tinfoil

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
I tried your suggestions and for some stupid reason the sath actually blew up (this is the mission before it is supposed to) WHY???
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Offline Rodo

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
I tried your suggestions and for some stupid reason the sath actually blew up (this is the mission before it is supposed to) WHY???

Noooo that's impossible, check again... 

did you used cheat codes?
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Offline tinfoil

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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
quite possible. i banged away at that thing for ages and it finally went down. for some reason it never warped out.
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Re: Maybe i just suck but...
Obviously a glitch.
Fun while it lasted.

Then bitter.

 
Re: Maybe i just suck but...
I tried your suggestions and for some stupid reason the sath actually blew up (this is the mission before it is supposed to) WHY???

The ONLY way I see how to do this.

You cant target the Sath when inside the "square" formed by the 2 beams. The angle is too small.

You target the first beam that is in your sights.

Then you ask teammates to attack the next main beams. Then go bakc to the original beams and APPROACH FROM AHEAD. Not parallel. Target with Helios. If you are Medium difficulty or less, this works. You go within 100 meters or so of the beams then launch Dual Fired Helioses. Turn around and BOOST AWAY. If you do it from anywhere more than 200 meters, the Long Range Flak WILL take the Helioses out.

The first one will do 62% and then the second one will do the rest. As soon as its destroyed, go like 1000m ahead of the Sath then do the same to the second.

It is virtually impossible to target the beams and get a clear firing solution when targeting from inside the box created by the beams. By this, I mean the entire area caused by the box and the little "pit" inside. Target from ahead of the Sath and fire when REALLY REALLY CLOSE BY.


After you take out two, you shouldnt have any Helios bombs left after taking out two. Task the teamates to take out the third one while waiting for rearming. Rearm outside the Sathanas's path or he will crush you. After rearming, boost 500-1000m ahead and repeat.

As long as you have 2 beams left, you are pretty safe for the next mission. Take out 3 for more safety. If you manage all 4, the next mission is the easiest in the whole game.
Just don't give away the homeworld...