[Snail]

EDIT: I now get what Snail's saying, but I'll leave that there to prove my point.

My posts are infamous for being cryptic, rude, annoying or downright incomprehensible. I apologize for all of these cases, and for anything that may happen after now.

Besides, 32 solar systems (including Sol, the Nebula, the Binary System) hardly count as a galaxy.

[colecampbell666]

But still, many of them have many planets rich with resources, Capella being one.

[Snail]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[ShivanEmperor]

I don't understand it either. But it states somewhere in the Campaign. Perhaps SoL is the only system with the right raw materials. There are plenty of other systems yes, but it doesn't mean they have everything the terrans need. Terran ships may all be composed of materials found on Earth.

[ShadowGorrath]

Only the Prometheus needed some gas that is found only in Sol. Not neceseraly Earth. And it was only the Prometheus weapon.

[Fenrir]

And they found it in the nebula after Gamma Draconis, which seems to be pretty far from Earth.

[Snail]

Only the Prometheus needed some gas that is found only in Sol. Not neceseraly Earth. And it was only the Prometheus weapon.

It was argon, apparently. Perhaps the GTVA could have found argon but decided it was not feasible to do so, because the conditions were too harsh for mining or it wasn't cost effective.

[ShadowGorrath]

Argon? Then it's really not a gas from Earth... Well, not in FS years. 

And there's this NTF thing going on during that time, so the GTVA had to build more new and better fighters, than care for getting argon.

[Snail]

There was a full 32 years to do so.

[ShadowGorrath]

No comment ... 

[Fenrir]

Maybe the argon finding budget must have been cut for additional funding for the Colossus. Or they just didn`t really think too much about the Prometheus until the Shivans came along...

There are millions of equally unlikely explanations.

[jr2]

Those "shells" I'm betting were canisters of gas used to produce the laser... which was prolly later replaced by a gas-feed system.  Also, AFAIK, SW cap-ships / fighters are designed to rely mostly on their shields... meaning that since beams pierce shields, beams pwn all.  I mean, a fighter goes down after a few blasts when it's shielded...

[Spicious]

since beams pierce shields

Do you want to try backing that up with some evidence? Keep in mind that SW shields are likely to function in a fundamentally different way to FS shields.

You've also assumed that FS fighter mounted weapons have similar power to SW fighter mounted weapons.

[jr2]

since beams pierce shields

Do you want to try backing that up with some evidence? Keep in mind that SW shields are likely to function in a fundamentally different way to FS shields.

Try looking at your shields after your hull has been knocked down to 5% by a glancing blow 

You've also assumed that FS fighter mounted weapons have similar power to SW fighter mounted weapons.

No I didn't.  I simply said SW fighters had most of their strength based on shields.

[Spicious]

You have failed to link that to SW shields. It also doesn't establish any relation between SW hull strength and FS hull strength.

You've got that beams go through FS shields and that SW shields are more sturdy than SW armour, which are two quite unrelated statements.

[jr2]

You have failed to link that to SW shields. It also doesn't establish any relation between SW hull strength and FS hull strength.

You've got that beams go through FS shields and that SW shields are more sturdy than SW armour, which are two quite unrelated statements.

* jr2 would like to point out that FS and SW are two quite unrelated fictitious universes. 

EDIT: In other words, there is no canon data on the intersection of the two universes.  So, you will end up doing whatever you feel like.  You feel that SW ships should be superior to FS ships.  You will make (unfounded) assumptions about how the various ships etc perform.  So will I.  There can be no winning this argument.  If you want to take it scientifically, the most you have to go on is references to gigatons (or the like) in any canon source on either side, as well as how easy it is to vaporize asteroids of a given size, if you can determine what they are made up of.

[ShadowGorrath]

Photon beam cannons. Photons are light, correct? Do SW shields protect from light?

[Stormkeeper]

Photon = Light
Mirrors reflect Light
Therefore best defense = massive mirror.

[Spicious]

Given that they stop 'laser cannon' fire, I'd think they would.

[ShadowGorrath]

Photon = Light
Mirrors reflect Light
Therefore best defense = massive mirror.

Which they don't have. 

Given that they stop 'laser cannon' fire, I'd think they would.

It's... different. So unless the shields black out the sun to the ISDs, photons pwn ISDs without the shields even noticing the beams.