[--Steve-O--]

sweet! i didn't think it was compatible with 7.6, i'll give that a whirl then.

[Mav]

At least it is compatible with 6.6...  got that one for christmas, meh :-/


Anyway, it sounds like they finally improved the booleans - never could get those stupid things to work correctly, always got that "change boolean precision or model placement" error *yuck*
(err... or was i just doing something wrong? if you know better, advice would be appreciated )

If that's fixed I'd certainly be very happy , as that was my main concern with tS so far - and I stopped using blender a long while ago (2002) because it did cause me too much trouble back then . By now that might be fixed, but now I'm familiar with the tS interface and tools...

On the other hand, this "non-manifold" or whatever tool someone mentioned above might be worth a try for fixing some old models of mine...

[Akalabeth Angel]

what's a boolean anyway? Never figured that one out. I only know the coding terminology (true/false)

[chief1983]

It's the intersection of two objects.

[Mav]

Yep - you can either add, substract or take only the intersection of two objects. As such it WOULD be a very useful tool - IF only it wouldn't cause me so much trouble... 

[Scooby_Doo]

I dunno, for doing scene setup for pcs2, truespace 3 is far better than 7.  Everything seems to be buried and I could never get the wireframe to actually work. 

[Mav]

Well, you know - some people are actually MODELING with tS; and those certainly can use some improvements...

(hm, didn't DL it yet - will have to do so over the weekend... )


Sadly now the whole plugins-part of the caligari site is down - maybe some links for people who need the free plugins, e.g. trueview or whatever it was called (that hierarchy-manager), should be posted?   (of course only legal ones   [don't know how far their authors restricted downloading, but hopefully the author's sites will still be around somewhere, linking there should be pretty much legal as long as it isn't a direct link to the file]   - that's why I mentioned the "free")


Uh, does anyone still know if the Paks (ray, de, fx) can still be bought, and if not, why?? OK, maybe it isn't needed anymore with this, but I actually had planned to order atleast the dePak during the next months...

[chief1983]

God, I had to google to find it on his site.

TrueView 1.5

[Mav]

Well, thanks . Though "people who need them" didn't mean me, as I already have all the free plugins that I'm interested in... It was just thought as a community reference, seeing that someone talked about needing to install it again a bit further up this thread .

[chief1983]

Also,

Some random site that actually hosted TS plugins instead of linking to them

And in case they ever disappear from those places,

Trueview 1.2 (came with ts32.)
Trueview 1.5 (same as the one on Kara's site but renamed to match Caligari's naming)
piSceneTool, Primitive Itch doesn't host it anymore

A lot of PI stuff is in that first link.

[Scooby_Doo]

Well, you know - some people are actually MODELING with tS; and those certainly can use some improvements...

Oh ya thats definetely an improvement, no question there.  BTW how do you get it to go into wireframe and highlight the current object like in 3.2?  As is, it's hard to tell whats selected.

[KewlToyZ]

I'm trying to see if I can config the environment controls with it like Rhino.
Of course Rhino 4 is a paid system and awesome with the trial so far.
I always loved it over 3DS Max.
But I'm curious where Microsoft is going with the TS platform since they purchased it and made it free.
Would be interesting if they began working more intensely with the True Space 3D tools in a more standardized intuitive environment.
Their biggest following with Combat Flight Simulator was the add-on development community.
And of course the MSN Gaming Zone in its hey day along with Fighter Ace

[Darkmage]

dunno why everyone complains about the truespace UI. I can model/texture in it faster than I can work in any other environment. the rightclick on icons makes lots of sense especially when you move the toolbars around the screen. I recommend people turn off as much new crap as possible and use the ts6 interface in ts7. the new UI got clunkier for n good reason. The actual model/texturing tools are decent.

[Colonol Dekker]

After playing around with 7+ i've decided all i need is Truespace 2 and lithunwrap.

[KewlToyZ]

Well looking things over here, TS is great for its Heirarchy tools.
It is going to take me some time to figure out texture mapping with it.
With the PCS2 Collada dae support it makes things considerably easier and inexpensive from the time I started looking at making a model for FSO.
Also the pof maxscript, with GMAX has a lot of potential to work the process down to free tools for anyone who wishes to contribute.
I'm just glad I can use Rhino with other tools now.
Hopefull by the end of September I'll have a system figured out

[TrashMan]

Truespace 5.1 is the BEST Ts version I've seen so far.

7 has got some cool new features, but tehy re-designed hte excellent UI, which was one of hte best things about TS. I'm not impressed with 7.6.
Sticking with 5.1, thank you.

[Topgun]

how good is truspace 7.6's smoothing? is it better than blender's?

[pecenipicek]

it always was better. 3.2 had autofacets working properly, and that one's from '97...

[Vasudan Admiral]

Not so. TS and blenders smoothing is actually almost exactly the same in terms of functionality and quality. Neither program has true smoothgroup support, but both do have workarounds. For TS the main workaround is rather tedious and ineffective, but the one I've recently found for blender works beautifully and I've been able to achieve 3ds Max quality smoothing with it.

In blender, you handle the smoothing as an absolute last step, and you do it by in edit mode selecting the groups of faces you want to smooth separately and pressing Y and then yes to 'Split?'. This is essentially forming geometric smooth groups - where if your normals are correct (and you can turn the viewing of normals on in the far right of the edit mode panel) the sections will be given individual smoothing that is far better than what's typically done in TS.

This same workaround is possible with truespace, but with TS' horrendously clunky toolset you are far more prone to breaking things. Ie, there is no 'remove doubles' command that can instantly weld your separated groups all back together if you need to. You'd have to do it manually.

Max wins the smoothing game overall though with it's specialised smoothgroup features.

[pecenipicek]

well, that is true. do you know how cinema 4D compares to max in that section?