[KillMeNow]

after all this time i fainlly got to see it  =) whoooooo hoooooo  thats some serious bad ass weapons - and that hull armour now they could have used some of that during the dominion war heheh one ship would slaughter the jemhader and those torps well if one can destroy a borg cube then there is almost nothing they cant destroy - wonder how janeway will explain those away lol

mysterious alien tech that just happens to have a starfleet signatureah who cares it wasn't captain janeway that broke the rules lol and especially since they have pretty much crippled the borg - unimatrix 1 destroyed - a transwarp hub destroyed and i bet starfleet R&D just cant wait to get there hands on transphasic torps and that armour


nice ending too to burst out of  sphere and then fly back with the waiting fleet - although it has to be said that those federation starships should have done some damage to that sphere but i suppose the effects budget was gettign abit empty after all that

any just had to say all this cause i'm a huge str trek fan and i hadn't seen it until just afew mins ago

[Zeronet]

Um, the Sphere was the last of the Borg. The rest were killed. So really, their arent any more Borg.(Think as one, die as one)

[KillMeNow]

ahhhh yes star fleet command will forgive a little well huge violation of the temporal prime directive

[Scorpius]

well, the queen was killed in Star Trek First Contact too. So I dont think its the last of the Borg.  At least it better not... Because thats star Trek's only good part.

[Fineus]

If somethings making enough money there's always a way to bring it back

[Zeronet]

The queen was the only visible damage you could see, they did not show a picture of the 5000,0000 trillion drones suffering the same fate.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Zeronet
The queen was the only visible damage you could see, they did not show a picture of the 5000,0000 trillion drones suffering the same fate.

I think that was implied when Unimatrix One vapourised. Besides, with that much heirarchical damage all the drones woulda been freed. If they wanted to bring the Borg back in they could Shadow them. Think of all that Borg tech floating around in space waiting for all sorts of little Drahk miscreants to take it and create nano-probe weaponry with it.

[Kitsune]

The Borg are the Borg.
There were 3 'queen's killed though movies and series.  If you think there's ONLY one borg 'base' like unimatrix one then you're crazy.

How many transwarp hubs are there?  There's likely to be a dozen more.  Unimatrix two, three...

The queen said she still had one ship under her command, I think she meant that was within reach of voyager.  She probably had more of the same ships further out.

At any rate yes, there has been a big blow done, but like I said at the beginning.  

The Borg are the Borg.  They will adapt.

[Vertigo1]

I was soooo happy to finally see Janeway die.  That was worth the entire episode of bad acting.

[CougEr]

The last words of the queen were: "Sphear 634 you can still hear my thoughts... I have assimilated your pathagen but I've also assimilated your armour technology.
 Thus the federation fleet weapons where ineffective against the sphear.
Also in my opinion that WAS the destruction of the Borgs in the Delta quadrant as the neurotive pathagen brought chaos to oder, and eventually we saw the Unicomplex  exploding. That meens that the other Transwarp hubs in the other quadrant would not be effected  by the collapse of the condues  but would be cut off from the queen herself thus ZOMBIES BORGS. but not for long as they would rebuild the queen.  hehe as they've done before.

Regarding the Borg coming back...

In a speculative sense,  in future episode of the new enterprise series If the Queen  gets her hands on a tachion particle generator and a Chronos device she can also  breach the main prime directive, and of course as a villan she would, go back in time and do whatever she needs to preserve the well being of her Collective.

Yep! I'm another Trekie

[Setekh]

Originally posted by MD-2389
I was soooo happy to finally see Janeway die.

Janeway dies? SWEET!

Wait... she died properly, right?

[CougEr]

She died assimilated.  Ohh   yeah   that episode hasn't been screened on Australian TV  yet.

heheh  
I have it here Setekh! 120 megs DivIx
  make me an offer...
 hahaha

[Nico]

Originally posted by CougEr
She died assimilated.  Ohh   yeah   that episode hasn't been screened on Australian TV  yet.

heheh  
I have it here Setekh! 120 megs DivIx
  make me an offer...
 hahaha

you give it and he doesn't IP ban you

[KillMeNow]

nope the entire netword was destroyed not jsut the one hub - the said the network had been obliterated - and unimatrix 1 was one ofa  kind borg queen home - i got to agree other than borg ships that had been sperated and given there independace with the rebelliony thing before i think the borg are gone and they certainly cant be bombing around the universe so quickly - although still pretty fast they still have transwarp drive but the conduts are much faster

[Setekh]

Originally posted by venom2506


you give it and he doesn't IP ban you

Yes, it seems like we've reached an arrangement... [jk]

Anyway, don't fuss. I'm too busy downloading Legend of the Rangers.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Setekh


Janeway dies? SWEET!

Wait... she died properly, right?

I don't know how she can be properly dead if she's in the new Star Trek flick as an admiral.

Now, if the Borg really are obliterated, permanently, then Trek has a hope. The Borg were symptomatic of Trek's increasing slide into 1980s era comic book crap, where no hero or villain could make a difference except by selling hostess snack cakes or toys. Look at the history: we've got these mysterious aliens who have the power to scoop entire cities up off a planetary surface, leaving kilometers wide craters. Of course, with that kind of power, they should have been able to destroy the Enterprise and its pesky crew, right? Wrong. Then we've got Delta Quadrant Borg and 44-of-D, who, besides having some of the worse writing of any trek series ever, are the wimpiest, sorriest, most pitiful excuse for bad guys ever. I dare say that the Kazan could easily give them a fair fight. If you dumbed down the Kazan, that is. If the Borg are dead, good riddance.

Shame about Janeway though. I liked her voice.

[an0n]

The 50 year ols Janeway from the future dies at the hands of the Borg Queen.

Unimatrix 1 = One of a kind although much smaller unimatricies will exist.
Transwarp hubs = 7of9 says there are only six in the entire galaxy.

The FC queen death does not count as she undoubtedly assigned a new queen before she went back in time. The 1st Voy death (on the diamond?), we are unsure as to whether she was onboard and she did escape the 359 cube. The final death however was not just a simple death, she was disconnected from the hive before she died and thus her conciousness could not be moved to another drone. And as witnessed in Dark Frontier, if the queen loses contact, everything stops until she regains contact, being dead I don't think she could have regained contact.

[KillMeNow]

defaintely the transwarp network is gone no question 7 of 9 didn't say the hub was destroyed she said the transwarp network was obliterated as for the hive mind yup the queen is gone i dont know what effect taht will have on most ships but certainly i think the collective as we know it is gone - perhaps they will regain there indivuality perhaps they will keep there collective mind jsut withouth the queen controling them and since therwill be so many opinions very little will get done and perhaps they will all have died and there are no lifeless borg cubes flating aroudn waiting for there tech to be stolen

[an0n]

Oh yeah. They said the explosion from collapsing those support thingies would spread across the network, but they still have normal TW and slipstream and stuff.

I think the lack of elaborating information was restricted on purpose so as to create speculation as to the demise of the borg amongst ST fans.

[Styxx]

Bah, the Borg was a kickass villain up to Best of Both Worlds, when they still adapted to everything, were still a collective mind instead of that crap hive mind, still didn't have any stupid queen and just stormed through fleets of federation vessels as if they were nothing but pathethic insects.

The simple fact that Voyager (a goddamned tiny scout ship, for Christ's sake!) survived that many encounters with the Borg (one encounter was almost fatal to the Enterprise, a full-blown Galaxy Class, which would kick Voyager's ass all the way through the damned delta quadrant) is a statement to the sheer incompetence of the Star Trek writers, and the fact that they are somehow able to transform one of the coolest sci-fi villains ever (I considered the Borg to be on the same level as SHODAN) into one of the crappiest villains ever is further proof of that.


The Borg doesn't have queens.
The Borg only has cubes.
The Borg will adapt to anything.
The Borg will kick federation's ass.

That's the Borg I like, I refuse to consider anything past BoBW, specially Voyager. And yes, that excludes First Contact.