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Offline Snail

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I don't know of any, but the Repulse was captained by Rear Admiral Koth.

 

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When you say it that way, it's no wonder he was pissed off enough to rebel. :p

Since the NTF was a military dictatorship, by all accounts, I wouldn't be surprised of the normal rank structure was altered somewhat to make way for Bosch to be the highest-ranking person around.

Still, wistler makes a good point. I can't think of anyone in command of a destroyer who wasn't an Admiral. I can't think of a destroyer with an identified commander that wasn't a flagship of some fleet, either.
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I think the main problem we have here is that we're not sure of the GTVA's rank structure, so its easier assume that destroyers are commanded exclusively by Admirals. If we knew more of the command structure, it'd be easier to determine the fleet composition and size of the GTVA fleets.

But I doubt every destroyer is commanded by rear admiral and above. Maybe the ones we see are all commanded by rear admirals and above, but there could be destroyers captained by .... well ... Captains.

If we assume every destroyer is captained by an Admiral, then the GTA's taskforce mentioned in Awakenings would have like ... 19 Admirals or something. 16 Reliant-class destroyers and 3 Orions. Also, the number of cannonical destroyers we see, if each was captained by an admiral, that's a very big command group.
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I was thinking in terms of JAD2:EB, where...
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Commander Ko Mander captained the GTD GeeTeeDee.

Or even JAD:SSE, where
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Captain was the captain of the GTD Sasquatch.

There's no reason to call a captain a captain if he does not, or did not formerly, have command of a ship (Captain Hook; Captain Jack Sparrows; etc.).
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Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.

 

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Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.
Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.

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Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.
Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.

:wtf:

But then again, it does make things simpler. If the ship ever gets hailed in the open sea, there won't be a quarrel among captains. :drevil:
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Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.
Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.

      Hmmn, I thought they were promoted to commodore.

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Commodore is a naval rank, while Major is an army rank. So you're both right.

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     How does the USN work exactly? Carriers are typically escorting by a number of other ships. I mean, in BSG Rosalyn describes the rank of Admiral as someone who "commands more than one ship". Each destroyer I imagine would have numerous corvettes and cruisers as escort. So each GTD or GVD destroyer would essentially lead a small fleet of their own. Theoretically. So if I don't know if in the USN the Carrier commanders are Admirals? Not that the GTD is necessarily based on the USN of course. The ship naming schemes are all out of wack. But it is Admiral Petrach, not Midshipman Petrach, leader of the Vega fleet! Maybe each fleet only has one Admiral. But perhaps all the other destroyers are Rear or Vice Admirals??

 

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I would doubt that only Admirals can command a Destroyer. The GTVA would have to have a promotion every time they wanted to make a new Destroyer which would make a very top heavy chain of command, but yeah i haven't come across a canon destroyer commanded by anyone less then admirals.

 

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Hey, I know one Admiral who doesn't command a destroyer. In fact, I know an Admiral that flies fighters around. Alpha "Cheater" 1.

 

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Hey, I know one Admiral who doesn't command a destroyer. In fact, I know an Admiral that flies fighters around. Alpha "Cheater" 1.

Uhh, that's not canon, Snail. Even on the highest difficulty level in the main campaign, I don't think you can make it to Admiral.
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I'm sure i've made it before, but can't remember on how many playthroughs.
*would check the wiki but doesn't care enough to*

Um, right. :nervous:
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To see in the tbl how many points it takes to reach admiral.
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I think that may have been on SquadWar.
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Nope on Squadwar, i was ONE freakin ullysses kill away from making Commander when PXO died.....
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