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Re: Test shows brave students don't cheat
Then again, I need about 5 minutes for learning anything due to a IQ which makes other faint but totally pisses me off.
But overintelligent people are often a bit dull. The real fun comes with people whose shoe size is bigger than their IQ.

Hehehe... I have EU shoe size 45, which is appearently over 10,5 in male US. Also, I'm 13 years old and 1,83 m.

Hell, I just need more muscles (not that I'm fat) and I'll be the ÜBERRRMENSCH (pronounciate the R).
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Then again, I need about 5 minutes for learning anything due to a IQ which makes other faint but totally pisses me off.
But overintelligent people are often a bit dull. The real fun comes with people whose shoe size is bigger than their IQ.

Hehehe... I have EU shoe size 45, which is appearently over 10,5 in male US. Also, I'm 13 years old and 1,83 m.

Hell, I just need more muscles (not that I'm fat) and I'll be the ÜBERRRMENSCH (pronounciate the R).

No, I really think someone just needs to beat the crap out of you in an FS2 deathmatch.

 
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Ah yeah, I forgot. FS2 is also an ÜBERRRMENSCH discipline.

Oh, if you mean, my last post wasn't meant to be arrogant. I know I'm growing a huge mental penis sometimes.
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To them, the punishment for getting a low grade is worse then the punishment for cheating, and the likelyhood of getting caught is almost nothing.
What is the punishment for cheating there?

 

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To them, the punishment for getting a low grade is worse then the punishment for cheating, and the likelyhood of getting caught is almost nothing.
What is the punishment for cheating there?

At my school, you get a 0 if you cheat. The problem is that cheating to the teachers is mostly restricted to looking over someone's shoulder, and they're not even very good at that. As far as the overachievers are concerned, they can easiely find out what questions are on the tests, or do things like have their calculators do half the chemistry problems for them (like my friend has yet to shut up about...)

 

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I find that the more honest people are, the more stupid/gullible they'll be. People who are smart are going to be an underachiever and never get caught. And then like many smart people, we all make choices. I choose to be honest because i really don't see the need to lie. But, this conflicts with my dark side, this means i'm honest to a point because there are some things that need to be lied about as well as stuff that needs a lid so tight it doesn't see the light of day. And of course there's going to be intelligent underachievers who are a lot more moral and proper than i am. It just depends on what the person wants to do.

In my opinion being honest to a point is a lot better than plain unbridled honesty. Plain unbridled honesty is irresponsible and always leads those stupid/gullible honest types into an ass kicking pretty fast. Plain unbridled honesty is irresponsible because the people who are honest like this don't understand the logic of "if it's so horrible, then it's needs to be heard as much as it was said...not heard or said at all". These irresponsible honest "dummies" don't realize how much they'll screw other people over by repeating the things they said that was not good to the people who have nothing to do with the situation, or to the people the things said were about.

Anyway, i don't cheat because, whatever work i put in is what grade i'll see. But, i'm the person who does help others cheat, and that if i help them cheat they are getting true studied content that will give a good grade as opposed to the other time someone helped me cheat :hopping:
Then again someone who cheats probably does just as much work the person who does their work properly. So, i see it as someone who cheats successfully and gets away with it utilized their brain power in a way that the other students haven't and probably deserves to keep what they earned. Everyone knows that cheating is not easy.
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Never cheated, had to work hard for every grade...apparently I'm brave.  Its been a good day :)
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Everyone knows that cheating is not easy.

That depends.

 

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In highschool, I never studied, I never cheated, I just didn't care.

I'm trying to change.

 

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Everyone knows that cheating is not easy.

That depends.

What may seem easy to you for cheating is difficult for many. Not everyone on planet earth will spend a lot of effort in making sure they cheat good and go unnoticed. Hacking the school network to get answers or change your grades to finding and taking advantage of loopholes is completely different than falling dumbass to using the same answers to a test that a professor circulated in secret before the day to take it to catch cheaters (by making them fail because the professor circulated a leaked copy of the test with bogus answers).

The smarter people are going to spend a lot more effort at cheating. Which the more effort you exert for cheating really does make it not that easy. Easy would be not exerting that much effort at all.
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The smarter people are going to spend a lot more effort at cheating. Which the more effort you exert for cheating really does make it not that easy. Easy would be not exerting that much effort at all.

Which brings up another point. Why go to all that goddamn effort? Do they seriously just want to tweak the system? Are they ****ing stupid? I don't care how smart you are; if you put in that much effort into cheating, you're a f---ing dumbass.

  

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Yeah many would be a dumbass for actually doing it. But if they got away with it, then i wouldn't call them one. So if going through all that effort is almost equal to going through all the effort for studying and doing well, then why would anybody cheat?

Probably because studying is boring and cheaters don't want to do it even if it is just as much effort as cheating itself. Cheaters want to do what they want to do and if studying was equal to the amount of effort for pulling off a really heavy and good cheating scheme that totally cheated the system, then i couild totally see a cheater do that because: it's fun for them, they'll be doing what they want to do instead of studying, and they effectively found another way to pass classes.

The last thing is you want to put effort into cheating. The people who are lazy at cheating are the ones who get caught. Lazy cheaters are like, hey look i found the test and the answers to it this week on the net, lets get it out to our friends. Everyone takes the test, the cheaters all fail class because the professor totally knew which ones cheated because he leaked the test on the internet with bogus answers.

What a smart cheater would do while getting a hold of the leaked test is to ignore the answers that came with it and to take the test twice. Start studying from the leaked test, and take the official test and know that you're going to do good on it.
Right there is as much cheating that i ever do on a regular basis. If you have classes that have online exams and quizzes, the screenshot key is your friend, and resume the test at a later time. This lets you study the questions on your own time and not on the exam allotted time and if your unsure of one of your answers, then you still have all that extra time in the exam time allotment to make a change.

I put a lot of effort into cheating only because my cheating effort requires lots of study time (4 hours of extra time per exam, it was a really hard class). But i don't call myself a dumbass. I found a loophole and exploited it with true study power by viewing the exams twice which got me many A's and high B's. The simple fact that i got to look at the exam before i took the exam because of a small loophole in my classes system is not being a dumbass, it's called being clever. I totally hand an upper hand on everyone elses studying in class by being more efficient. Instead of reading chapters and covering tons of content from lectures, i just listened to lectures and studied the exam questions only, instead of everyone studying all week for one exam that i only needed to spend 4 hours of studying for.
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Re: Test shows brave students don't cheat
Uhh, I cheat all the time during the year, but when it comes to the exams I don't cheat and I get fine grades. Is this bad?

 

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Not if you're cheating truly does put you a step ahead of everyone elses studying.
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And that will land on you like a tonne of weight once you are employed and people suddenly realise that your skills don't match the qualifications.

 

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I did cheat a tiny bit in high school (mostly because I was sometimes lazy)...but in college? Nope.

There really wasn't much logic in cheating there.
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And that will land on you like a tonne of weight once you are employed and people suddenly realise that your skills don't match the qualifications.

How would this possibly catch up with me when i went to every single class, and got good grades on the exams that i studied very hard for, not to mention did every homework assignment? The good grades i got did come from my heavy commitment to my classes.

Answer is no because my skills would match my qualifications. The only thing i did was take a look at the questions before i took the exam. Hell i even answered them myself, after massive studying.

EDIT: Nevermind, just realized what you posted didn't pertain to me.
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or do things like have their calculators do half the chemistry problems for them (like my friend has yet to shut up about...)
I assume that this is some kind of "assistance plan" where they're allowed to use a calculator to help their grades, while others aren't because they're smart.

Our school system is stupid, people are pulled along from grade to grade, never failing. They have to fail 2 of 4 core subjects, 50% is a pass, and even at that, if the parents say to pass them through, they are allowed to pass.

My cousin was talking about how in Ireland they do tests at around 10-11 in the schools, and then are sorted to the appropriate grammar schools after that. That's how it should work, that way the smart people aren't weighed down by the stupid. Or Forrest Gump. Or Derek Smart. Or your mom.
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That's how it should work, that way the smart people aren't weighed down by the stupid. Or Forrest Gump. Or Derek Smart. Or your mom.

The wit of your post dazzles me.  :o

 

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And you're fat.