[Androgeos Exeunt]

i tried it a while back and to be honest, its crap. it crashes one too many times and their are too many bugs in that version.

I think that's the Rebalance Mod. The Discovery Mod is supposed to be very stable...or at least, it was very stable the last time I tried it.

Do NOT touch the Rebalance Mod. I tried 3.50, and it froze my computer time and again.

[Al Tarket]

rebalanced mod? i never heard of it.

i made my point, and your answer?

[NGTM-1R]

I think that's the Rebalance Mod. The Discovery Mod is supposed to be very stable...or at least, it was very stable the last time I tried it.

They both rebalance so the main campaign is impossible. They both add nothing to playing the single player campaign. What more do you need to know?


I got a Rheinland Valkyrie once (that IS the heavy, right?) after the main campaign was over. I was impressed with its handling characteristics and durablity, and Rhineland's best guns are fully a match for any of the experimentals while still being a teir or two lower. However with only four guns and an aft-only turret, I didn't feel the Valkyrie had the firepower requisite to a heavy fighter.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

They both rebalance so the main campaign is impossible. They both add nothing to playing the single player campaign. What more do you need to know?

I got a Rheinland Valkyrie once (that IS the heavy, right?) after the main campaign was over. I was impressed with its handling characteristics and durablity, and Rhineland's best guns are fully a match for any of the experimentals while still being a teir or two lower. However with only four guns and an aft-only turret, I didn't feel the Valkyrie had the firepower requisite to a heavy fighter.

Yes. The Valkyrie is the Heavy Fighter.

Having four guns as compared to five or more has an advantage in itself. You can fire longer.

The other nice thing about vanilla Freelancer is that they give a small number of ships, so after a lot of flying here and there, you'll more or less know what each ship is called and classified. I'm going to give it a go now.

Starflier - Civilian Light Fighter
Startracker - Civilian Light Fighter
Hawk - Civilian Light Fighter
Falcon - Civilian Heavy Fighter
Eagle - Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
Piranha - Bounty Hunter Light Fighter
Barracuda - Bounty Hunter Heavy Fighter
Hammerhead - Bounty Hunter Very Heavy Fighter
Patriot - Liberty Light Fighter
Rhino - Liberty Freighter
Defender - Liberty Heavy Fighter
Bloodhound - Pirate Light Fighter
Mule - Pirate Freighter
Wolfhound - Pirate Heavy Fighter
Cavalier - Bretonia Light Fighter
Clydesdale - Bretonia Freighter
Crusader - Bretonia Heavy Fighter
Drake - Kusari Light Fighter
??? - Kusari Freighter
Dragon - Kusari Heavy Fighter
Anubis - The Order Heavy Fighter
Banshee - Rheinland Light Fighter
Humpback - Rhienland Freighter
Valkyrie - Rhienland Heavy Fighter
Dagger - Border Worlds Light Fighter
Dromedary - Border Worlds Freighter
Stiletto - Border Worlds Heavy Fighter
Sabre - Border Worlds Very Heavy Fighter
Legionnaire - Corsair Light Fighter
Centurion - Corsair Heavy Fighter
Titan - Corsair Very Heavy Fighter

I'm not too certain about the Civilian ships, nor do I know what the Kusari freighter is called, but there you go.

Has anyone tried the Humpback? I did once, and I regretted it greatly.

[Stormkeeper]

The Kusari freighter is called the Drone iirc.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Yep, it's called the Drone.

[Al Tarket]

the civvie ships are correct. imo i think its cruel giving the startracker the title of light fighter . the starflier imo is superior to the startracker in many ways which it deserves its title and it can handle it's self in liberty very well despite being a "pile of junk".

[Jeff Vader]

Both the Starflier and the Startracker suck. The point of the Starflier is that you use it until you've cleared the first mission. Then you get some money and buy the Defender. The point of the Startracker is to urge the player to look elsewhere for a new ship *cough*Dagger*cough*.

And I have this feeling that the Valkyrie has five gunpoint (plus turret). Like any heavy fighter. The Banshee has four.

[Al Tarket]

yeah, dagger, but not for long before you change over ships again.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

The Valkyrie has that overhead cannon, so it's five. Put a Stealthblade up there and you get a nice little stick poking out above your cockpit.

The Dagger is very fun to fly. If you equip it with a pair of Drails, Raphaels and a Badariel Turret, you get a mobile machine gun.

I'm using by cheat character at the moment. I'm flying the Drake after meeting Lord Hakkera for the first time...and I've found Planets Crete and Malta, Omicrons Gamma, Beta and Alpha, as well as the jump nodes to Omicron Theta and the Unknown. In addition, I skirmished with eight Nomad Fighters and salvaged a Nomad Energy Blaster and Nomad Energy Cannon, not to mention most of the Prototype weapons. My net worth now is over $1 100 000.

I used to have five Stealthblade Mk. Is, but I sold all that and chose to use a pair of Dragoon Type 1s, Pyros Type IIs, and Angelito Mk. Is. It is amazing that the Sealthblade Mk. I is a Class 6 gun, yet fails to compare to the Outcast and Corsair weapons.

When I fought the Rhienlanders earlier on in my Crusader using the exact same loadout, I was thinking, "Eat the power of Hispania, Nomad trash!"

[Al Tarket]

i dont supposed you would like to tell me how you managed to get a cheat character?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

i dont supposed you would like to tell me how you managed to get a cheat character?

I thought you knew what happens when you set the DIFFICULTY_SCALE in your perfoptions.ini to 0.00...oops.

That, by the way, is the only so-called "cheat" in Freelancer. Everything else is an exploitation of physics or game glitches.

[Al Tarket]

ooo exploits and glitches! .

freelancer will be played when i finished my demo campaign.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

ooo exploits and glitches! .

I can name a couple:

- Firing a torpedo when your enemy heads towards you with its shields down;
- Docking with the second-last ring of a trade lane so that you shoot out of the end at 2500m/s.

[Colonol Dekker]

Reliving Discovery mod,

Currently Flying my Bretonian Battleship around New London causing merry havoc on the local police forces, Dying, re-loading and doing it all over again

[Stormkeeper]

- Firing a torpedo when your enemy heads towards you with its shields down;

That's neither glitch nor exploit; that's enemy stupidity.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Reliving Discovery mod,

Currently Flying my Bretonian Battleship around New London causing merry havoc on the local police forces, Dying, re-loading and doing it all over again

I don't like large ships because they still have problems de-mooring from certain stations. On the other hand, I like to use this: the Z3000 "Barghest" Pirate Bomber.

Once I'm done posting here, I'll go and play my cheat character and get him from Planet Malta to Shinigawa Station.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Double post.

I'm now at the Tekagi's Arch mission. Do you know that if you want to make things move a lot faster, you can just take the jump node to Hokkaido and retrieve the guns from the three nearby Kusari Naval Forces Fighter? Each gun sells for about 7000 credits, and there are six of them. When you pick all of them up, your net worth increases by 42 000 credits; the next mission only requires 30 000.

[Jeff Vader]

Do you know that if you want to make things move a lot faster, you can just take the jump node to Hokkaido and retrieve the guns from the three nearby Kusari Naval Forces Fighter? Each gun sells for about 7000 credits, and there are six of them. When you pick all of them up, your net worth increases by 42 000 credits; the next mission only requires 30 000.

1. Freelancer has holes.

2. Yes, but I prefer raiding the trade lane between planet Honshu and Yukawa. Since the "good" guys and corporations already hate me.

[Hellstryker]

Reliving Discovery mod,

Currently Flying my Bretonian Battleship around New London causing merry havoc on the local police forces, Dying, re-loading and doing it all over again

Lol, what server? Perhaps i'll join you and provide fighter cover