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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Cause we rock.

Well, mobile suits are usually defined as agile but weak, while mobile armors are the opposite...
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
If a story is good enough for the suspension of belief to work, then it doesn't really matter in my opinion. It's like complaining that the Sword of Isildur could never be re-forged properly because there would be micro-imperfections in the steel that would make it weak. That might be true, but nobody cares, Magic is the technojargon of Fantasy novels.

Come to think of it, Spaceships powered by magic could make an interesting theme if done properly ;)

Reminds me of the Starshield books by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman.



The only Gundam I have watched is Wing. While the mech designs look cool, especially in EW, the show is essentially a ludicrous storyline wrapped in pseudo philosophy. Never mind technology.

It's more or less the same in Macross, but at least there are better storylines (barring M7) and no pretensions.

 

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Well VOTOMs...are basically armoured power suits rather than walking tanks.

Considering both the size of the VOTOMS armored troopers (3.8 meters tall, dry weight of more than six tonnes) and their control method (pilot in cockpit), I really have to disagree with that assessment.

About Gundam, I'm actually quite amazed that these mobile suits are, what, about sixty to eighty feet tall? And yet they can move about so freely.

16.5 meters is standard MS height in Wing. The original MS Gundam's namesake suit is only 18 meters and a Zaku 17.5. A VF-1A from Macross/Robotech is only 12.9 meters. So it's not quite that big. Forty or fifty feet instead.


EDIT: One of the things that tends to make Wing more palatable to me (and also MS Gundam) is that the mobile suit is a weapon in its infancy; the tactics and techniques for it have yet to be worked out, particularly as it applies to using them against each other. The MS has only been around in Wing for about twenty years, and the Leo is nearly that old, making the slaughtering of them by the much more recently designed and built Gundams basically the same as pitting the first tanks ever developed against a Char-1 bis or Panzer IIIE. In MS Gundam, the mobile suit might even be as young as five years. Someone without preconceptions can waltz in and throw away the book on tactics and be proven correct very easily, as it's the blind leading the blind.
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
It is said that Gundam Wing was the Gundam arc that brought the whole thing into the spotlight. I was too young to understand why, though.

...we ought to split this thread, because it looks like we'll be talking about Gundams for a while. ;)
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Stop it with those anime mech/mobile suit/whatever crap! It's bad enough the Galatea is destroyed, you need to ruin it's thread?

 

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FreeSpace needs moar giant fighting robots.

 

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
FreeSpace needs moar giant fighting robots.

Nah. Leave it at JAD, m'kay? ;)

I think the GTVA named one of their medals the "Order of Galatea" to remember the destroyer.
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
I think the GTVA named one of their medals the "Order of Galatea" to remember the destroyer.
... I think that's kinda obvious ... The Galatea and Bastion always struck me as 'hero' destroyers.
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Well VOTOMs...are basically armoured power suits rather than walking tanks.

Considering both the size of the VOTOMS armored troopers (3.8 meters tall, dry weight of more than six tonnes) and their control method (pilot in cockpit), I really have to disagree with that assessment.

       You know of any six tonne tanks? Only the lightest tanks, were anywhere near 6 tons. The Panzer I, the Vickers, and the Tetrach.
       VOTOMS are power armour; remember the full name is Armoured Trooper VOTOMS. It's a trooper, in armour. They're deployed in infantry squads, they fight as infantry squads. They're better than infantry, but Tanks can make short work of them (at least in Heavy Gear, I've been watching VOTOMs but I've not seen a tank yet - police APCs don't count). But I mean really that's semantics or somethin' similar. Whatever you want to designate them, their function remains the same.

 

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*snip*
TBH, if I were the commanding officer, I'd have a lot more VOTOMS and a lot less tanks. More cost effective. The only real need for tanks would be to ... well ... tank.
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Pop quiz, roughly what year was the Galatea launched :)
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
I KNOW I KNOW!

The answer is ...

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Pop quiz, roughly what year was the Galatea launched :)

2332?
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Pop quiz, roughly what year was the Galatea launched :)

Which one?

 

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"


I like that :yes:

Ummm, i'm not too sure, does it say in any briefings command or otherwise? :lol:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
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-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
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-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
2332 was a random guess, since it's symmetrical. However, I don't think an Orion can last that long.
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
Was the Bastion brought out of mothball storage to be Meson bombed? I can't remember that much.

(For some sort of idea on operation life of an Orion)
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
2332 was a random guess, since it's symmetrical. However, I don't think an Orion can last that long.
I thought the Orion had a reputation for toughness? I mean quite a number are still in service during the Second Shivan Incurion, aren't they?
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Re: The destruction of the Galatea "spoilers"
I give them a life expectancy of about three years (2333 to 2335).
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