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Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Whats the shivan fighter or bomber you hate the most?

The obvious choice would be the Dragon, but 2x harpoons will put it down.

No, for me, i loathe the Mara. It's the one fighter that seems to move in strange directions. Its shielding is powerful and its weapons and missiles are ample to harass transports, freighters and cruisers.

As for bombers, i hate the Taurvi. Although its payload isn't heavy and has no turrets, its payload is fearsome and its thin profile makes it difficult to hit with guns. Nephilims are also quite nasty - they seem to move in on warships quite quickly and can pack on alot of payload.

 

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Seraphim and dragon. Dragon cause it is just so damn annoying to hit them. Dunno why the Seraphim. If it was in FSPort, then dragon and shaitan. Shaitans are sent en masse, and have too much HP and shields to take out.

 

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I hate the Aeshma because it looks like somebody said "ok, let's come up with the stereotypical Shivan fighter."

I also hate the Taurvi because it looks like somebody said "so, Shivans are spiky and red, right? Let's make a spiky red thing and call it Shivan."

I made a thread about this eons ago.

@ShadowGorrath: Seraphim was introduced in Silent Threat, which (I'm pretty sure) is included with FSPort.

 

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Dragon, because they're so discouraging to kill, and Seraphim, because they WON'T_DIE. :mad:
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Let's say that I was talking only of the FS1 campaign on FSPort.

Well, basically the answers here will be mostly Dragon-Seraphim.

 

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What's amazing is that the most despised Shivan small ships are complete opposites. One is on the extreme end of mobility, while the other is on the extreme end of durability.
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How about this: a wing of Seraphims, with Dragon escort?

 
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In FS 1, the Dragon was the worst there is for sure, however in FS 2 the Mara isn't really such a killer (especially when you get your hands on an Erynies or Ares... Hell, even a Perseus with quad Kaysers can outhandle and outshoot a Mara), and the Dragon doesn't have enough missiles to really be a pain. Also- Trebuchet-killing Dragons is pretty satisfying. The heavy fighters can be Maxim-sniped by a wing of Boanergeses if they warp out 3 klicks away before they can do a thing. Then there's the Astaroth, but that would pwn and own only if it was stealth because it's too delicate. Therefore- no winner during the SSI.

In terms of bombers- the Seraphim, followed closely by the Nahema, which after breaking off it's attack, is a tough nut to crack in anything slower than an interceptor, or with less firepower than an Erynies or Potato.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
 :mad: Act III of FS2 made me hate Nahemas with a black, boiling, all-consuming maelstrom of hatred. They come out of NOWHERE and just NAIL all my Argos with their double Cyclops, then pop out a couple Piranhas while you're trying to chase the bastards down. There's SO MANY of them and they're ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Dragons, eh, I've learned to deal with Dragons. Just don't get in a one-on-one duel with them; with two or three wingmen pelting them with Avengers they go down quick. Basilisks are fun to kill.

The heavier Shivan bombers (Nephilim and Seraphim) can be managed with liberal application of the Shield Breaker or a Circe/Tempest combo. The trick here is to hold your fire until you can pull up behind them, out of the firing arc of their turrets. If you attack on your approach you'll only make them angry.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Terran Mara.

Have you ever tried to fight a wing of those?  :hopping:

Also the Vindyachal (sp?), if it counts

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Manticores. I find them annoying to hit. The lead tends to make you hit between the wings. All their bombers are nasty but I think Nephilims gave me the biggest headache.

As for non-canon then all trophies go to the Gorgon.  :p

 

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I hate them all, but Dragon and Manticore take the cake.

speaking of which, if you hate shivans now, you're gonna absolutely LOATH them after COTS.
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Dragons. Definitely dragons. Hate their guts.
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As for non-canon then all trophies go to the Gorgon.  :p
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
I think Seraphims are my least favorite. It takes 4 or 5 harpoons to down one, which is more than I'm usually willing to use on a single non-cap craft. If you want to take it down with guns, then you have to approach it just right, or you'll have the crap beaten out of you by a bunch of turrets.

The dragon and manticore aren't too bad, usually. Under normal circumstances, double harps can take them down from ~600m.

Non seraphim bombers all seem to be weak and slow, so they're not too much of a big deal when you catch them quick enough.

 
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Actually, the Dragon and Seraphim are not so bad. They are practiccly awesome from the Shivan point of view. And this is how things look like from a shivan point of view:

"Ah crap, a Human flying a Serapis fighter..."

 

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Dragons can be surprisingly easy to kill even on hard difficulties... provided you're in an Ursa. That kayser turret will swat them out of the sky like flies as long as you keep them within its firing arc :D
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In FS1, when missiles were pretty unreliable, the dragon was a nightmare

 

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I loathe Dragons and Manticores on an equal scale, just impossible to hit the buggers.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Aeshma bomber for being ugly and unspectacular, Dragon, SOLELY for that FS1 disable mission that i refused to give up on first time i encountered it, forgetting that i'd played to that point on HArd.........


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