[Razor]

Which programme do you expert renderers recommend for that kind of job?

I just want to know.

Thanks

[Corsair]

I use 3D Explorer and Photoshop 6.0. They work pretty well.

[Fineus]

Run a search on this topic  - it's been discussed a fair bit before

[CP5670]

I am a newbie to 3D modeling but it seems that these are the major programs:

3D Studio MAX 4.26 (this is what I use and am 3D stuff learning with)
Lightwave 7
trueSpace 5.1
Cinema 4D
Rhino3D
Maya 4

For 2D art, there are basically two major products:

Photoshop 6.5
Paint Shop Pro 7.02 (this is my application of choice)

[Razor]

OK thanks guys. But I actually want to make pictures (like the renders by Thunder, Setekh and others) of FS ships in action. I heard that you need somehow to transfer a ship model into a certain programme and then render it, add backgrounds and stuff.

Thunder, what do you use to make your renders and how do you transfer FS ships in the programmes you use for rendering. You don't draw them do you?

[Pera]

Originally posted by Razor
OK thanks guys. But I actually want to make pictures (like the renders by Thunder, Setekh and others) of FS ships in action. I heard that you need somehow to transfer a ship model into a certain programme and then render it, add backgrounds and stuff.

Thunder, what do you use to make your renders and how do you transfer FS ships in the programmes you use for rendering. You don't draw them do you?

You can convert FS2 models to truespace .cob files with the pof constructor suite, get it here: http://alliance.sourceforge.net/files/Software/AllProFS2Kit.exe

Most 3d-modelling programs can open .cob files.

[DragonClaw]

You can try using TrueSpace1 (I emphasize 'try')... its free...

You can get it here: http://www.pcplus.co.uk/article.asp?id=8556

[Razor]

Thanks guys.

[Rampage]

Originally posted by CP5670

3D Studio MAX 4.26 (this is what I use and am 3D stuff learning with)
Lightwave 7
trueSpace 5.1
Cinema 4D
Rhino3D
Maya 4

For 2D art, there are basically two major products:

Photoshop 6.5
Paint Shop Pro 7.02 (this is my application of choice)

Okay, did you pir-8 these programs?!  You would spend more than 3000 dollars on all of these programs if you bought the latest version recently!

Pretend that I didn't say anything if you are using the trial version of these programs.

[CP5670]

LOL, I don't actually have all of them; they are just the ones I have seen other people use. I got 3DS Max and Photoshop from the IMF library (dad works there, so I can get some free stuff ) and bought PSP for retail.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Rampage


Okay, did you pir-8 these programs?!  You would spend more than 3000 dollars on all of these programs if you bought the latest version recently!

Pretend that I didn't say anything if you are using the trial version of these programs.

Try 3 or 4 times that and you'll get what it would be about...
Good thing you didn't, or, well...

[Setekh]

Originally posted by CP5670
LOL, I don't actually have all of them; they are just the ones I have seen other people use. I got 3DS Max and Photoshop from the IMF library (dad works there, so I can get some free stuff ) and bought PSP for retail.

Good to hear... *phew*

[Stryke 9]

You legits.

And Carrara also does grandly as a renderer, though it's a fair ***** to model in (better than TS and LightWave, worse than Max, RDS, and practically anything else) and has a texturing engine completely unlike TrueSpace's.

[CP5670]

I have some other stuff from those sites though... :D (I buy anything under $100 and try to get it in other ways if it costs more; IMHO some of those applications cost far more than they are worth but there is no competition there)

[an0n]

I have the following (the listed prices are those at which I have seen the various products advertised in recent months):
3D Studio MAX r4 (dunno)
Lightwave 7 (dunno)
Cinema 4D XL6 (about £900)
Maya 4 (about £2.5k depending on package)
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Paint Shop Pro 7 (dunno, about $70?)
Adobe Photoshop 6 (I was blinded by all the 0's)
Macromedia Flash 5 (dunno)
Macromedia Fireworks 4 (dunno)

[ot]
This is why the computer industry is an economic nightmare. It costs the companies like 20p to make a CD (factoring in program development costs and such) and they sell them for about £800 each. And then they ***** about the pirates 'ripping them off'.

Sure, loads of people have pirate software but with products like the above it's not as if any of those people would have bought them anyway so the companies lose nothing. yet they conitnue to ***** about loss of sales. Stupid, just stupid.
[/ot]

[CP5670]

This is why the computer industry is an economic nightmare. It costs the companies like 20p to make a CD (factoring in program development costs and such) and they sell them for about £800 each. And then they ***** about the pirates 'ripping them off'.

Sure, loads of people have pirate software but with products like the above it's not as if any of those people would have bought them anyway so the companies lose nothing. yet they conitnue to ***** about loss of sales. Stupid, just stupid.

That is exactly what I mean. Game developers definitely work much harder than the productivity application developers, but games cost a mere $50 as opposed to thousands of dollars for some programs. I buy games in the normal way since I think that the product is well worth the money and the developers deserve it, but for example, I am not going to pay 70 times that for 3DS max. (luckily, the IMF library has that one ) The problem is that all of the competing software costs around that much, so there are no other options. Someone should release a good program for under $100 that could do all of the stuff that similar $2000 ones can. (and if the game companies can profit from selling $50 games, I am sure that this would work too )

3D Studio MAX r4 (dunno)
Lightwave 7 (dunno)
Cinema 4D XL6 (about £900)
Maya 4 (about £2.5k depending on package)
-----
Paint Shop Pro 7 (dunno, about $70?)
Adobe Photoshop 6 (I was blinded by all the 0's)
Macromedia Flash 5 (dunno)
Macromedia Fireworks 4 (dunno)

Yeah, some of those prices are really crazy. Converted to dollars, I know that 3DS Max costs $3500, Lightwave is around $2200, Cinema 4D is $1700, and Maya is an incredible $5500. PSP is actually very good in this respect with its $70 price, which is why I bought it retail. (personally, having used Photoshop as well, I think that PSP is better even ignoring the price difference) Photoshop is some $650. Not sure about the Macromedia products, but they are probably somewhere in the $200-$500 range.

[an0n]

Maya is an incredible $5500

Ha! Yeah right. The Basic version is £2.5k, the standard version is about £4k and the Professional version is like £12k. Personally I think that's ****ing ridiculous.

[Razor]

Originally posted by an0n


Ha! Yeah right. The Basic version is £2.5k, the standard version is about £4k and the Professional version is like £12k. Personally I think that's ****ing ridiculous.

Watch it

[an0n]

Originally posted by Razor


Watch it

 

[Setekh]

Originally posted by an0n
Ha! Yeah right. The Basic version is £2.5k, the standard version is about £4k and the Professional version is like £12k. Personally I think that's ****ing ridiculous.

I'll have to agree, there. Unfortunately, as much as any of us disagrees with the supreme crappiness of the system, we can't do anything about it here. Maybe someday if we invent some super-duper render thingy, we'll release it for 10c a pop. Everyone'd use it.