[KewlToyZ]

Awwww come on I love being hysterical 

[Colonol Dekker]

Calm it people.

End of the day, we don't have to use it.

[Flipside]

Agreed, I'm not angry, I just hate it when people generalise and start saying that only the people that they agree with are 'sensible', and that anyone who has a concern is 'hysterical'

[Colonol Dekker]

Everyones got a right to have a point of view.

This topic seems a bit diluted now. My 0.05$ (no cent key on my keyboard ) is that of the abovce post. I'll give this a day to re-organise into a civil discussion.

[asyikarea51]

The first thing I saw was this line:

The aim is to allow developers to build new applications which will live on the internet, rather than on their own computers.

And I could only and with . And not in a 'minor' way too - more like that worrisome feeling of an impending apocalypse, etc etc etc and stuff of that sort...


Oh well...

[Colonol Dekker]

Office servers do this already.

Microsoftys just proposing it on a lrager scale, eventually. I doubt it will be a forced concept though. Much like .swf over Java.

[asyikarea51]

Well at that point in time when I saw the quote, I was thinking about "normal" software (i.e. the kind you pick up from a shelf, pay, and should own).

Yep that's about it

[KewlToyZ]

Essentially creating Thin Client / MainFrame based software is definately a long time proven technology.
Task specific applications can always work with this, but not the operating system in its entirety.

[S-99]

If you want to actually check out some cool cloud computing. Then go here and check out eyeos. It's an internet operating system. The cool thing is that you can download it and install it on your own server as you wish.

Actually different from eyeos. Buying tons of computers with no hard drives and one uber powerful server hosting an os and have everyone boot from lan. One time setup with all of the computers setting up to boot from lan. Then, maintenance would only need to occur on the server hosting the os. Great for computer labs, net cafes, etc.

With eyeos what you could do is create your own server on your own network and connect to it from anywhere in the world from your web browser. Sort of like storing your files on the net. Except not, it's on your network. Yet again very similar to logging onto a computer via ssh and using a remote desktop viewer. Just that the web browser variant would only require a web browser. Something all computers have as opposed to ssh, vpn, vnc out of the box.

Internet os's and internet based software like google's browser based word processor is handy stuff. Especially if you go out of country. You can just use any computer and just login to your internet desktop from a browser. But, like everyone says, you don't want your data where you can't control it. I'd only ever store my data on a local computer or over the internet vpn'ing to my network.

[KewlToyZ]

I've worked in those thin client OS labs before, the productivity level was crap during class times due to volume.

[Colonol Dekker]

The thing i'm not keen about with these, is that (if i understand correctly) doesn't the network speed determine how fast programs load effectively limiting processor potential?

[KewlToyZ]

Also the server's ability for connection pooling, data caching, client memory for the data volumes, and again the real main key element, bandwidth. Driving in reverse down a freeway is possible. Is it practical?

[MR_T3D]

^No. but pretty cool!

[S-99]

The thing i'm not keen about with these, is that (if i understand correctly) doesn't the network speed determine how fast programs load effectively limiting processor potential?

No. How about the reverse of this. Does your fast connection to the net limit your processor speed and potential?

I've worked in those thin client OS labs before, the productivity level was crap during class times due to volume.

I guess a much more powerful server should have been used.

This type of os is part of the future of cloud computing and is already popular and in use. Mainly google putting this stuff to good use.
It's very funny how in this discussion because people don't like the idea of an internet os so the next explanation as to why is that servers = the suck.

[Admiral_Stones]

The thing i'm not keen about with these, is that (if i understand correctly) doesn't the network speed determine how fast programs load effectively limiting processor potential?

No. How about the reverse of this. Does your fast connection to the net limit your processor speed and potential?

I've worked in those thin client OS labs before, the productivity level was crap during class times due to volume.

I guess a much more powerful server should have been used.

This type of os is part of the future of cloud computing and is already popular and in use. Mainly google putting this stuff to good use.
It's very funny how in this discussion because people don't like the idea of an internet os so the next explanation as to why is that servers = the suck.

It should be working  only as fast as the data's coming. If the connection is slow, you're screwed, you can't calculate data you don't have.
Oh yeah, Remote Desktop Viewers are for pussehs. Terminal are teh win.

[Topgun]

my guess is that you would get all the data then calculate it.

[KewlToyZ]

I guess a much more powerful server should have been used.

This type of os is part of the future of cloud computing and is already popular and in use. Mainly google putting this stuff to good use.
It's very funny how in this discussion because people don't like the idea of an internet os so the next explanation as to why is that servers = the suck.

It is determinant on where the load is passed, the applications scope of use, and the volume of data that can be passed.
If everyone is on a T-1 but the load is 10,000, what happens to the trunk?

[Scuddie]

Ummm...  You guys realize that the Azure project is for Global Intranet purposes, right?  As in PRIVATE network?

It's sad that so many reliable news sources seem to always get things like this wrong.  What's even sadder is that their subscribers actually believe it.

Now excuse me, I have to become paranoid at the idea behind patenting page up and page down keys .

Seriously.  Get a clue.

[KewlToyZ]

LOL, I'll have to read more about it, I'm more excited about magnetic RAM and WiMax though.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Azure? Pfft, they've already got the Sky and I'm using it to store my FreeSpace stuff.

Besides, they've got a lot of Lives running parallel to each other already.