[General Battuta]

The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.

No, it's not a reboot. But there is a time travel storyline, which the producers say will create a new branch universe or something.

So, yeah, almost a reboot, but not quite. It involves time travelers from the 'old' Trek continuity, whose meddling -- I believe -- somehow creates a new one.

Plus, the producers really liked some of the Trek novels, and consider a few semi-canonical.

[Hellstryker]

i saw some ZOMG

I really gotta say, that's just... We shall see, though.

[BloodEagle]

It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.

The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.

That isn't a good thing.

[Akalabeth Angel]

        One question I have is, where the hell is Bones in the trailer? Bones, Spock and Kirk are essentially the three main actors of the TOS. That's why their names come before the credits. I sort of understand why they'd focus on Kirk and Spock for the trailer, but I didn't even see anyone who looked like Bones. Sulu, Uhuru and presumably Checkov were there though. Come to think of it, I didn't see any red shirted scottsmen either.

[Cobra]

Scotty was there, you can hear him talking about how he likes the ship.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Scotty was there, you can hear him talking about how he likes the ship.

        Oh is that Scotty? Given the clothes he was wearing I thought it was some, transient they picked up.

[General Battuta]

        One question I have is, where the hell is Bones in the trailer? Bones, Spock and Kirk are essentially the three main actors of the TOS. That's why their names come before the credits. I sort of understand why they'd focus on Kirk and Spock for the trailer, but I didn't even see anyone who looked like Bones. Sulu, Uhuru and presumably Checkov were there though. Come to think of it, I didn't see any red shirted scottsmen either.

He's there. He's Karl Urban. He says "Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence." At the end, you can see him making a Bones face.

[IceFire]

Given how much action is in the trailer and all of the Kirk scenes they focused on...not as much of the other characters were shown.  Hopefully we get another trailer soonish that will give us more of the characters.

[Flipside]

I wonder if part of the time travel story will explain why Scotties hair was more receded in the past than it was by the time TOS started

[Kosh]

It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.

The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.

That isn't a good thing.

Why not? Star Trek needs a refresh.

[Mongoose]

I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.

[Rick James]

I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.

Don't be such a downer! Positate the negatate.  This movie will be a good way to wipe out some of the major ****-ups which have been plaguing Trek since it began.

[BloodEagle]

It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.

The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.

That isn't a good thing.

Why not? Star Trek needs a refresh.

I think both Enterprise and The Second Data (as I call it) showed that that can't work.

[Akalabeth Angel]

I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.

      Bleah, Star Trek went downhill after TNG.
      DS9 is just a rip off of B5 (I tried watching this thing, but when every episode started with Quark I got pissed off and quit)
      Voyager, well they butchered the Borg. Most of the characters are pretty unlikeable from what I've seen of it.
      Enterprise is okay. But, largely uninspiring. A few good moments.

      It's not like Star Trek has real continuity anyway. Ever watch TNG? Technology was always dictated by the plot. Sometimes they can do something, sometimes they can't. Like beaming through rock, or not. Or, the particle of the week.

      I mean, just take the new movie for what it is and enjoy it.

[Mefustae]

      DS9 is just a rip off of B5

Phew, thanks for that! I no longer need to pay any attention to your posts ever again. That's a real time saver.

[Akalabeth Angel]

      DS9 is just a rip off of B5

Phew, thanks for that! I no longer need to pay any attention to your posts ever again. That's a real time saver.

      Oh please man, JMS, the guy who made B5 approached Paramount with his idea. They told him to piss off. Some time later, Star Trek DS9 comes out. And what is it? A station, in neutral territory that becomes the centre, integral command post in a large war (Dominion War/Shadow War), run by a guy who was on the receiving end of an asskicking (Sisko vs Borg/Sinclair vs Minbari), who gets a special spaceship (Defiant/White Star). There are many, MANY other direct comparisons as well, read on:

http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/si/similarities_between_babylon_5_and_star_trek:_deep_space_nine.htm

      Or feel free to stick your head in the sand, whichever.

[Mefustae]

Yeah, no.

See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?

So feel free to give it another shot, with an open mind it's quite a good watch.

Or don't. I really don't care.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Yeah, no.

See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?

So feel free to give it another shot, with an open mind it's quite a good watch.

Or don't. I really don't care.

        So, you're saying. If it's a bad show, it's a rip off? And if it's a good show, it's not a rip off? Wow. That's some crafty logic you got going on there. I don't see why anyone's surprised anyway, studios rip each other off all the time. How often do you see two movies about the same topic come out virtually in tandem? Though to be fair, as JMS says the ripping off was likely done by the corporate folks, not the people who actually care about the show in any concept other than its monetary value. So Berman and the other guys were just following orders, and thereafter the writers of both shows could diverge it a little bit.

        But regardless. I've never watched DS9 the whole way through. I've heard some people say the seasons with the war were quite entertaining. It was on Spike for a while and I think I probably watched about most of the first season, but when EVERY SINGLE EPISODE starts off with Quark in his bar, I got fed up. I mean, it's a military space station. And most of the air time is some stupid bartender. And yeah I know he was popular at the time but not in my mind. Seriously it was like Sisko and his gang got less air time than some civilian guy with big ears. I don't get that. I saw a few episodes after that, most of which turned about to be season finales apparently, but I didn't really know what was going on.

        Then, my two favourite characters, Bashir and the hot freckled chick get killed off or switched or something. I think Worf marries the girl but later on but she doesn't look like the same actress. As it stands the only Trek series I plan on picking up is TOS (one of the seasons I have already). I may see DS9 sometime, but I doubt it. Its very rare that I bother to switch on the TV, though I'm probably missing one or two worthwhile shows.

 
        But anyway, the new movie looks sweet.

        And back on topic further, I figured out who McCoy was and wasn't overly impressed with his 3 seconds of dialogue. Didn't strike me much as McCoy. But maybe he'll come across better in the movie.

[Mefustae]

        So, you're saying. If it's a bad show, it's a rip off? And if it's a good show, it's not a rip off? Wow. That's some crafty logic you got going on there.

Considering I didn't even mention whether or not DS9 copied Babylon 5, I'd say my logic was pretty good. I merely said that both programs were entertaining, so there's no real reason to care.

I'm sure you had more excellent points, but that's honestly about as far as I read before I got bored.

[Colonol Dekker]

I liked voyager


No not just for Seven Of Nine.............but For Kes too