[LtNarol]

There are also other problems with a united world, poor and underdeveloped areas, such as parts of the Congo and subsaharan Africa are far behind most of the world, and they're not alone.  This creates a huge gap between Europe/North America and these third world countries, a gap that will have to be eliminated because of political reasons.

This in turn means that large quantities of resources will have to be alocated towards industrializing these areas, improving their produce (which could take generations in Africa do to the deserts, much of which will have to be reclaimed), and their economy.  If the more advanced areas do not help there more underdeveloped areas, the world government will lose support from just about every part of the world.  So while i do believe we are heading in the right direction for a united world, we have a ton of obstacles to overcome.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by LtNarol
He couldnt stand the thought of poor and sick living in his country, so he gathered them all up, built a bigass dining lounge out of wood, brought in the poor and sick, brought in a big feast, sat at the head of the table, excused himself while the rest were still eating, and had the doors locked.  He then set fire to it, and thus got rid of the sick and poor in his country.

FU*!!!!!
WOW!:jaw:
Where'd you get these facts!?!

EDIT: Also, about the topic, I totally agree, but you missed one thing, and it's that the human race is obsessed with war. If you take away war, you take away the human sole. I know it's kinda wierd, but, if you look at it, a lot of humans actually want war, like Hitler, Attila the Hun, Saddam Huesane (sp?).
Anyway,s that's my two cents.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by venom2506


(gorillas aren't herbivores, they're omnivore and will eat small animals if they can catch one -ie if one is stupid enough to come right under the big ape's hand ) I think the apes descendance theory has been scraped some years ago.

I mean that they do not actively hunt prey. Also, we did evolve from an early primate.

[Setekh]

War is good

You'd make a good Shadow...

[LtNarol]

the three infamous questions:
"Who are you?"
"What do you want?"
"Who do you trust and who do you serve?"

[Mr. Vega]

Originally posted by LtNarol
the three infamous questions:
"Who are you?"
"What do you want?"
"Who do you trust and who do you serve?"

"And do you like pickels on your hamburgers?"

[CP5670]

< edited because post didn't make any sense >

[wEvil]

I Didnt' say it would be a DEMOCRATIC globalist movement.

anyway...if you think about it we havent socially come very far since the middle ages.

All we've done is swapped a hereditary aristocracy that was to all intents and purposes bred for wielding such power for a corporate aristocracy that is made up from ordinary people that get a break in life.

The only difference here is that in our society, the power people get from their money is more than they can handle.

You could say the same about feudal systems, monarchies or dictatorships, but in each one of those other societies, things dont keep falling apart at the seams.


It looks to me as if we're headed for a feudal system that looks like a democracy to anybody who's not informed.

[Nico]

Originally posted by LtNarol
the three infamous questions:
"Who are you?"
"What do you want?"
"Who do you trust and who do you serve?"

her... "live for the one, die for the one"?

[an0n]

Ultimately the Earth will reach one of two states and eventually an inevitable third state:
1) Through war, disease, disaster and democracy the world will unite under a single facist state
2) Through war, disease, disaster and democracy the world will decend into complete anarchy
And the 3rd state:
3) Consumed in fire, and not in darkness the Earth will be gone. Be it through super-nova or anti-matter.

Not matter the place, Humans will fight wether they believe in their cause or not for it is in our nature, every one of us, to be leaders even if we only leader ourselves and even if it be into our graves.

The 'Dying for what I believe in' way of thinking is instilled in pretty much everyone and as such the people who are about self-preservation inevitably go down when the retards decide to die for the cause. Humans as a species (and mostly as individuals) are stupid, simply because they believe that no matter their mistakes in life, they will be forgiven in death. WRONG.

Even if a global government comes about there will be those who oppose it and they will do so with fire and pain. In the end everything is doomed so we might as well have as much nationalist, anarchic, genocidal fun as we can.

(Hey, I would make an excellent Shadow)

[wEvil]

I dont think theres anything you can beleive in thats worth fighting for.  Unless its something you DONT beleive in that people are trying to impress on you.

Apathy rules.

[LtNarol]

what you say may or may not happen, my opinion is best summed up by this quote: "I know not what weapon world war III will be fought with, but world war IV will be fought with sticks and stones."-I think this was Einstein, bit i could be wrong...

[CP5670]

uh...I think I posted in the wrong topic earlier; please ignore my previous post. :p:D

The 'Dying for what I believe in' way of thinking is instilled in pretty much everyone and as such the people who are about self-preservation inevitably go down when the retards decide to die for the cause. Humans as a species (and mostly as individuals) are stupid, simply because they believe that no matter their mistakes in life, they will be forgiven in death. WRONG.

LOL, very true; this is another common part of human nature.

lol, I don't think so actually. Just a qucik exemple: basques that want to split up with spain. corses that want to split up with france, the IRA, etc... the trend among people is not to get together, it's to settle on old fashioned ways of living, and the pride of belonging to an ethnic group which has no real foundation excepted geographical ones. I'll take the exemple of Corse coz I know that better. The corse have the benefits of lower taxes, are kindda allowed not to respect the law (they build stuff when and where they want. In fact they have about all the advantages of being french and volontary left the disavantages. But no, they're not happy, they kill people when someone takes the incredible decision of destroying a crappy cabin built on a beach, they keep assaulting the police, etc. Well, they want independance ( I would like to see how they would live on their own, with no economy, no industry, nothing excepted tourism, but that's another pb ).
So go and talk to them about a global gvt. I guess about all the countries in the world have this kind of independantist groups.
You need much more than good will and commercial bonds to makje up that kind of things: you need the people to change , and it's probably the hardest thing ever to achieve.

Yeah, there are a lot of these small groups trying to resist the globalist movement, but the difference between their efforts and those of the pro-world government people is that they aren't really getting anywhere, because for all practical purposes, their arguments will actually lead to the downfall of the nations they represent in comparison to the world government. For example, the EU is the only way that Europe will be able to match the US economically; the individual nations cannot quite match the US but united they can definitely compete.

I think one of the longer phases of the formation of this government will be when there are five or six independent blocks controlling the world : probably US/Canada/Mexico in one, all of Europe in another, most of Asia (including Australia and New Zealand), all of the South American nations, all of the African nations (including the middle east ones). The world will probably be in this state for quite some time, but these will eventually merge as well.

As you said, people resist change as a part of their nature, but they do not do so as readily when the change is very subtle and hard to notice. (it would have to happen over hundreds of years, as I said earlier) This can be seen in various places throughout history.

While I think that there will be a segment of the world's population that will resist a global state, they will basically become non-player's in human history and could be considered for all purposes insignificant. As I said earlier:

There will be nations who will refuse to join in order to preserve their "individuality," but they will not be able to economically and technologically compete with the massive nation and will be left behind in history as third-world nations, leaving only the big union to progress further.

The other possibility (not as probable IMHO, but still possible) is that the small nations will react violently to the establishment of a world government, particularly if anyone tries to push them into it. If this occurs, then the quote that LtNarol posted will unfortunately become a reality; there are the nuclear weapon ban treaties and such, but in full-out wartime the only law out there is survival of the fittest. I think that this is a somewhat remote possibility though.

[aldo_14]

Our fascination with death & destruction, etc, is possibly to do with facing our own mortality, as we no lonnger (here at least)have the same amount of 'public' deaths and wars.  No plagues, no executions.

The other thing is that it offers a way of releasing violent emotions / impulses - possibly the only way.  It's a similar thing with competitive sports, or with people trying to overtake the person ahead of them on the motorway.

Oh, and if anyone is talking about a globalist movement, just look at Orwells 1984.... much - if not all - of it still rings true, especially the wagin of a war in the only 'free' area in the world - Africa - to distract the public from their own opression.