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Offline CP5670

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Reply #60 on: July 03, 2002, 09:21:00 am
:wtf: This is one old topic...

I was quite a die-hard C&C fanatic many years ago and spent hundreds of hours modding both games. However, Westwood seems to be releasing a new sequel just about every year, none of which are really good in comparison to the others of their time, and I have lost the respect I once had for the company.

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The Best "clickety-click"-type RTS ever is the original Total Annihilation, I still play it on LAN with my friends. Of course with the TA unit compilation pack, which gives you like 200 new units.


I agree there.
 

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Reply #61 on: July 03, 2002, 10:36:57 am
Well from reading over the topic people seem to be forgetting one thing... Westwood created RTS..

Everyone seemed to be saying that Westwood just steals ideas and crap but Dune 2 for PC was the first RTS ever created. You can't call them unoriginal as they are the fathers of RTS's... Thank you...

I've played these other RTS's and though some have some good things about them they fall short in general gameplay. BTW, Total Annihilation sucked, IMHO
 

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Reply #62 on: July 03, 2002, 03:43:22 pm
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The Best "clickety-click"-type RTS ever is the original Total Annihilation, I still play it on LAN with my friends. Of course with the TA unit compilation pack, which gives you like 200 new units.


:nod: :yes: :yes2: :nod:

Dune 2 - 9/10 (only main nitpick was inability to select more than one unit at a time)
C&C: Tiberian Dawn - 9.5/10
C&C: Red Alert - 6/10
Dune 2000 - 6.5/10
C&C: Tiberian Sun - 5/10
C&C: Red Alert 2 - 10/10
Emperor: BFD - 10/10
C&C: Renegade - 9/10 (only problem is the semi-blocky character models, although the online C&C-mode value is unbeatable :D )
TA: - 20/10 (the game, while completely lacking tactics, was by far the best RTS EV4R!! :p)
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Reply #63 on: July 04, 2002, 02:21:36 am
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Well from reading over the topic people seem to be forgetting one thing... Westwood created RTS..

Everyone seemed to be saying that Westwood just steals ideas and crap but Dune 2 for PC was the first RTS ever created. You


true that is not, young padawan. before Dune2, Siege there was. and a Nintendo game, the name of which I cannot remember.
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Reply #64 on: July 04, 2002, 03:57:18 am
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true that is not, young padawan. before Dune2, Siege there was. and a Nintendo game, the name of which I cannot remember.



Venom, you can't deny the fact the Westwood was an Instrumental Part™, a Key Player™, a Central Cog™ and the Big Cheese™ ( :lol: sorry, I couldn't resist... ) shaping RTSes into what they are today. Now, whether you blame them or praise them for that is up to you, but the fact remains that they played a Central Role™. :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #65 on: July 04, 2002, 04:00:44 am
Hmmm... well I don't really care central role or not, just whether the game's good or not :D
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Reply #66 on: July 04, 2002, 04:31:55 am
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Venom, you can't deny the fact the Westwood was an Instrumental Part™, a Key Player™, a Central Cog™ and the Big Cheese™ ( :lol: sorry, I couldn't resist... ) shaping RTSes into what they are today. Now, whether you blame them or praise them for that is up to you, but the fact remains that they played a Central Role™. :D


I just pointed out that dune2 was not the first one :p
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Reply #67 on: July 04, 2002, 07:16:42 am
Sigh...wonder when this whole Command & Conquer series involving GDI and NOD is ever going to end...

The story is getting lame.
 

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Reply #68 on: July 04, 2002, 07:40:12 am
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Sigh...wonder when this whole Command & Conquer series involving GDI and NOD is ever going to end...

The story is getting lame.


There's 2 RTS featuring the nod and the GDI (Tibirian Dawn and Tib. Sun) , plus one mission pack for Tiberian Sun (her... Firestorm I think, don't remember the name, not the same in french)  and one FPS (renegade). Nothing that bad if you ask me. Go complain about the starwars games, when the ratio is 1 good game for 5 ubber**** ones.
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Offline Bishop Gantry

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Reply #69 on: July 04, 2002, 11:42:18 am
In TIB SUN they turned KANE into a *censored* (yes the F word) Puppet
Bah who needeed the Colossus when all we needed was 30 Fenrises
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