[ShadowGorrath]

Hello,

I am unsure wheter I should continue this or not, since I saw this thread after I started working on the HTL Cain/Lilith.

If I should drop this one, then I could try and move on to the Raksa...Rasksha...Rakshasa.

Screenshot ( lvlshot ) :

[Admiral Nelson]

Please continue -- the other thread hasn't been posted in in four years!

[Snail]

Make it look good, Shadow.

[Aurora Paradox]

Looks good so far but then again I know absolutely nothing about modeling.  Keep at it!

Aurora Paradox

[Mongoose]

By all means, keep going.  The Cain's one of the most-requested upgrades in that vote thread; lord knows it appears often enough that a new model would be extremely visible.  Give it the full works.

[Commander Zane]

RUN THAT BAD BOY BABY!!!

Yeah, continue with this one, the other HTL Cain / Lilith thread's dead as a doorknob.

[Droid803]

Use this (credit:Lightspeed) as a reference if you need to (I know I've already said it once on MSN, but just so its not forgotten).

[Commander Zane]

To be honest the missile launcher should be made round, the fact that it was a pentagon in the first place was most likely just the fact that the game was old and to make certain objects have large amounts of polygons would just be wasting polygons that could be put elsewhere.
Flak cannons on the Sathanas are trapezoids if I'm not mistaken, and most other beam cannons are octagons on other ships, and the Lucifer's planetkiller beams aren't mounted on triangles or something, that entire shape is circular if you look at the cinematics.

[shiv]

That's cool, Continue it.

[FireCrack]

Then again, the actual texture for many of the shivan guns depicts a triangular barell, wheras there were more than enough pixels available to depict a roughly circular one. Shivians are just wierd liek that.

[Commander Zane]

If you look at most Retail multipart turrets, so do they.

[eliex]

That's brilliant. Keep at it.

[Mobius]

IMO there should be separate models for the Cain and Lilith and not only reskins. The Lilith should definitely look better armored...turrets, for example, should have an unique design.

[Commander Zane]

The Lilith's main beam cannon would look cool if it had its own turret model, the other Cain / Lilith HTL model from four years ago looks like a good Lilith candidate in terms of being more armored.

[Mobius]

It'd be relatively easy to import that turret, right?

[Commander Zane]

I really wouldn't know.
My knowledge in modeling goes about as far as...
Yeah, that sums it up just about right.

[Snail]

IMO there should be separate models for the Cain and Lilith and not only reskins. The Lilith should definitely look better armored...turrets, for example, should have an unique design.

Really good idea there. Yes. More armor. Better turrets. Yes.

[Galemp]

Yeah, the old one isn't going to resurface anytime soon. Keep it up, but please use the screenshots of the previous high-poly model for reference.

Alternate, but similar, models for the Lilith and Cain would be a wonderful enhancement. IMO one should have pentagonal missile launchers, and one should have round ones, so both camps will be pleased.

Perhaps that could inspire the differences between the models. One could be made 'angular' and one 'curved', with the spikes on the back being hooked a bit in the latter. Then one would look like a more detailed version of the retail model, while the other is sleeker, being made on a higher polygon budget.

[Snail]

Hmm. IMO they should both have similar styles really...

[Alan Bolte]

What they need to look like is the same ship, except one has extra armor, and maybe some different details. So for the smooth/blocky idea, you would want the difference to look like armor plating. So, a smooth Cain with polygonal sheets of metal on top for the Lilith.