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Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Okay, correction: we aren't violent criminals.

As long as I don't do coke, I'm safe, then.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
You could never get them all, and even if you did people would just make more - poppy fields and refineries and such, I mean.
That's what I thought.

 

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
i sorta like the idea of being able to get a pack of blunts at 711, instead of from an armed felon with a hot temper and a warrant out for his arrest.

I'm still in high school. We all buy from classmates, not criminals.

well at the user level it seems all innocent and happy but those drugs had to come from somewhere. some cartel had to sell them to some smuggler, who moved it around and sold it to sold local organized crime group for twice the price (whether it be some dignified italian family, the ever cultured russian mafia or your friendly neighborhood crips), who in turn sold it to small time dealers for twice the price again, who cut it up and sold it to some reputable clients and a few smart kids looking to cut out the middleman (or get shot or pressured into trying crack). those reputable clients are usually friendly hippies, and at that level you stop seeing firearms (which get progressively larger as you move up the supply chain). those hippies take their qp bag and split em up into nickles and dimes for the high school kids and those are the ones who your friends got it from.
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Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
actually, most of it is grown by other high school/college students. usually from more rural areas. or fayetteville. :P dirt cheap and not exactly high-end stuff.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
What the christ.

Some more info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights_drug_raid

Whoever ordered the raid should be roundhouse-kicked. Twice.


Here's some in Ohio shooting a mother and her infant.

From the article:

Tarika Wilson had six children, ages 8 to 1. They were fathered by five men, all of whom dealt drugs, said Darla Jennings, Ms. Wilson’s mother.

This turned on a warning light for me.
People who have 6 kids with 5 drug dealers (and no other than the mother tells about it) aren't angels, I wouldn't be surprized if she was sky high when the cops came (although the sister said she didn't do drugs, I'd bet $100 that she was lying), and became agressive or even grabbed a gun (if you live with drug dealers, there's often a whole collection of illegal firearms lying around the house).
It's sad the child got hit too though, good thing he's alive.

Another quote:


Junior Cook was a neighbor of Tarika Wilson. He says that he watched from his front porch as the SWAT team raced across his front yard, and that seconds later he watched a police officer run from Ms. Wilson’s house carrying a bleeding baby in a blanket.

“The cops in Lima, they is racist like no tomorrow,” said Mr. Cook, 56. “Why else would you shoot a mother with a baby in her arms?”

Looks like the cops wanted to fix the mistake of hitting the child. I'll bet the cop didn't even bother to spend time getting latex gloves on before evac'ing the kid. Pretty risky when the mother slept with at least 5 drug dealers.

And Mr. Cook didn't see where the baby was or what his mother had in her arms when SWAT were in the building. He does however say everything he could against the cops, because he is black, and "they is racist".

A couple of the other articles did show cops doing stuff they should get fired/imprisoned for, but stories based on stories told by 'witnesses' who didn't even see the event don't prove if there was anything wrong or not on the cops' side. Same thing with the stories that show just one side's version, and therefore only half the truth (the half that makes it a sensation obviously).
Also that Pasadena story proved the cops weren't out of line.


Uhh... well, kids have been getting mugged at gunpoint and knifepoint walking to school. One kid got the **** kicked out of him right after school in the student parking lot. And last month a vice principal got mugged in the teacher parking lot. We're in the news rather a lot.

If you're on school property and you even threaten to fight back, you get suspended, so... yeah, we're supposed to rely on rent-a-cops. And the Raleigh police. Who don't give a damn.

They should teach people that if you don't resist the attacker won't be agressive. Hell they should even punish for resisting, because it just causes unneeded danger on the victims side, and could escalate the situation.
They should also ban guns and knives near schools.

Oh wait....*

*-If the good guys were armed, and the criminals had a fair chance of getting their @$$ kicked while commiting crimes, they'd really consider a job with a life expectancy long enough to go home after work. The weapons bans near schools just create a safe area for everyone from the average bully to people like Seung-Hui Cho
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Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Unfortunately, most people would pull out a weapon and then be too scared to actually use it. Waving a gun/knife/can of mace around isn't going to scare anyone if you're a white jewish kid stuck in the ghetto because it's a pretty safe bet you aren't going to do a goddamn thing with it.

So everybody having weapons for self defense is a pretty good idea.. in theory.

MAYBE the cops should stop telling us to hide our ipods and only show up when something happens, and instead patrol the goddamn area and stop people from breaking into students' cars while they're in school trying to become smarter than the people who run the school/government/etc.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Well, you really should cover up or conceal anything expensive looking in your car.
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Offline Slasher

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
everything he could against the cops, because he is black, and "they is racist".

For all we know, these particular ones are.  :confused:


They should teach people that if you don't resist the attacker won't be agressive. Hell they should even punish for resisting, because it just causes unneeded danger on the victims side, and could escalate the situation.
They should also ban guns and knives near schools.

Oh wait....*

*-If the good guys were armed, and the criminals had a fair chance of getting their @$$ kicked while commiting crimes, they'd really consider a job with a life expectancy long enough to go home after work. The weapons bans near schools just create a safe area for everyone from the average bully to people like Seung-Hui Cho


Given the time it takes to draw a pistol, Cho would have ended up killing someone anyway.  I don't understand what viable alternative you are proposing here, if any.  Allow open carry on school grounds?  Arm every student?  I do not want to go to a school where everyone has a gun.  That way, when a school shooting starts, only one idiot is trying to kill me.  Not 30+ other idiots who might kill me by accident.  For the record, I cannot afford a ballistics vest or anti-stab plates, nor do I want them. 

There are few demographics I would trust my life to such that I would arm them all and expect to be safe in a confined, crowded area.  Reports about the accuracy of the police during shooting confrontations suggest these demographics should be limited to the Marine Corps.  Semper Fi.  :yes:

One of the things about these stories no one seems to have hit upon is what happens afterwards.  The break down your door, break your windows, toss their flash bangs causing not only breakage but smoke damage as well and kill your pets.  Then they find out it's the wrong place and guess what?  You are responsible for everything.  They cannot be held accountable because they obtained a search warrant.  Doesn't matter that they screwed up and put the wrong address on it.  The judge signed it it's legal and you have no recourse.  This may not be true everywhere as people are trying to get laws changed because of incidents like these but in most places it is. 

No joke, the LAPD actually has a special team that goes around and fixes the doors of houses they've mistakenly served no-knock raids on.  Tax payer money at work.  :D


 
Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
You don't actually need each person to be armed to keep criminals away- if the victim is unarmed or unable to get his/her gun out, there could be a bystander who has a firearm and is willing to use it. If 1 out of 10 suspects gets stopped or shot while commiting a crime, all the others will tend to keep a low profile, or even leave the school area and find some safer place to work.

To the people here who don't want armed students- if they're under 21, have a criminal record, or fail a gun safety exam (there should be one IMHO, something like a DL exam, only at a shooting range), then they should remain unarmed.

As for the 'they is racist'- it seems that the black people in the community have problems too- they see snipers on the roof of the PD while the PD says they were photographers, they claim that the cops shot the woman because she was black, and a couple other things I don't remember right now.

However if the stories of harrasing are true even though the investigation showed they're not, they could have good reasons to raise the 'racist' flag.


This article says that NYPD scores 1/3 of their shots
. How does the USMC compare to that, in combat (let's say at close ranges), not at the shooting range?

And a quote from the article for those who didn't read it:


Officers’ guns go off unintentionally or by accident for a variety of reasons: wrestling with suspects, cleaning the weapons, leaning on holsters — even once, in 1996, when a gun was put in an oven for safekeeping.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
actually, most of it is grown by other high school/college students. usually from more rural areas. or fayetteville. :P dirt cheap and not exactly high-end stuff.

youre probibly smoking hermo plants then. in theory you should be smoking only female plants. but most growers will try to pass off anything they make, because when it comes right down to it growing dope is a 24 hour a day job and isnt exactly cheap. considering how much miracle grow you have to buy. and im told its a relentless battle against stoner mites who try to eat your product. to get around that problem you take your entire plant and dip it in a trash can which contains a water-dishsoap solution, and then again in another one containing water. its safer than pesticide and produces better weed. dont ask how i know this stuff.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
actually, most of it is grown by other high school/college students. usually from more rural areas. or fayetteville. :P dirt cheap and not exactly high-end stuff.

youre probibly smoking hermo plants then. in theory you should be smoking only female plants. but most growers will try to pass off anything they make, because when it comes right down to it growing dope is a 24 hour a day job and isnt exactly cheap. considering how much miracle grow you have to buy. and im told its a relentless battle against stoner mites who try to eat your product. to get around that problem you take your entire plant and dip it in a trash can which contains a water-dishsoap solution, and then again in another one containing water. its safer than pesticide and produces better weed. dont ask how i know this stuff.

We'll just assume you saw it on the Discovery channel.  ;7
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
actually, most of it is grown by other high school/college students. usually from more rural areas. or fayetteville. :P dirt cheap and not exactly high-end stuff.

youre probibly smoking hermo plants then. in theory you should be smoking only female plants. but most growers will try to pass off anything they make, because when it comes right down to it growing dope is a 24 hour a day job and isnt exactly cheap. considering how much miracle grow you have to buy. and im told its a relentless battle against stoner mites who try to eat your product. to get around that problem you take your entire plant and dip it in a trash can which contains a water-dishsoap solution, and then again in another one containing water. its safer than pesticide and produces better weed. dont ask how i know this stuff.

We'll just assume you saw it on the Discovery channel.  ;7


 :lol:

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
actually, most of it is grown by other high school/college students. usually from more rural areas. or fayetteville. :P dirt cheap and not exactly high-end stuff.

youre probibly smoking hermo plants then. in theory you should be smoking only female plants. but most growers will try to pass off anything they make, because when it comes right down to it growing dope is a 24 hour a day job and isnt exactly cheap. considering how much miracle grow you have to buy. and im told its a relentless battle against stoner mites who try to eat your product. to get around that problem you take your entire plant and dip it in a trash can which contains a water-dishsoap solution, and then again in another one containing water. its safer than pesticide and produces better weed. dont ask how i know this stuff.

$4-5 per gram im meine Deutschklasse.
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