[iamzack]

There's no Divine consequence for them. It takes a fool to believe in an afterlife so strongly as to risk being LAPD'd through the head for it

Is that quite harsh what you said.

So what you believe after you die.

I suppose I'm more a supporter of reincarnation, I don't think there's a God up there that judges my actions as such, but I kind of like the idea that each time we go round the wheel, we are learning something for a purpose, good or bad, it's experience.

I think that when you die, you are sent back to learn more, somewhere else, someone else, maybe not even human, but I don't think your actions in one life define what you come back as.

It'd be nice to think we are all an attempt by the Universe to understand itself, that all life is exactly that, similar to the question of whether 'God' can create a puzzle so complex that even He cannot solve it, and that we are that puzzle.

Reincarnation is fun to think about. I rather like the idea that maybe you don't come back immediately, though. Like you get a break in between to chill with other folks.

[blackhole]

Reincarnation is fun to think about. I rather like the idea that maybe you don't come back immediately, though. Like you get a break in between to chill with other folks.

I'd want to come back as a rabbit

[Flipside]

Religion isn't evil, organised religion is evil.

[iamzack]

Reincarnation is fun to think about. I rather like the idea that maybe you don't come back immediately, though. Like you get a break in between to chill with other folks.

I'd want to come back as a rabbit

I want to come back as a middle class white male american. or a tree.

[WeatherOp]

Edit: We've filled up the new replies box without flaming each other, that's rare....

Yeah, but you must admit Flip, there really isn't much discussion going on. 

There's enough to make the topic interesting

Sooo true, definitely interesting no doubt.

[blackhole]

Religion isn't evil, organised religion is evil.

I concur.

[Daniel P]

Atheist zealot. All religion is not, in fact, evil.

What's evil about Buddhists?

Oh I never said religion was all evil. I simply said it was a product of our inherent self-absorbed nature. Religion, in that view, is a good thing, because it keeps us from being the nasty cheating whores we would be otherwise. At least, it tries to, but then you get priests who go about raping kids...

You sometime got corrupted Atheist  People and Religious People.

[iamzack]

Actually the *really* interesting thing about reincarnation is that since matter is never created or destroyed, atoms are recycled. Technically, we were other things before we were us. Time to get high. Oh my gods.

[Flipside]

There's no Divine consequence for them. It takes a fool to believe in an afterlife so strongly as to risk being LAPD'd through the head for it

Is that quite harsh what you said.

So what you believe after you die.

I suppose I'm more a supporter of reincarnation, I don't think there's a God up there that judges my actions as such, but I kind of like the idea that each time we go round the wheel, we are learning something for a purpose, good or bad, it's experience.

I think that when you die, you are sent back to learn more, somewhere else, someone else, maybe not even human, but I don't think your actions in one life define what you come back as.

It'd be nice to think we are all an attempt by the Universe to understand itself, that all life is exactly that, similar to the question of whether 'God' can create a puzzle so complex that even He cannot solve it, and that we are that puzzle.

Reincarnation is fun to think about. I rather like the idea that maybe you don't come back immediately, though. Like you get a break in between to chill with other folks.

Must admit, that would be nice, though, of course, if everyone you know has already started somewhere else, you might be a bit short of people to chat to, but even then, it's not impossible that there is a 'greater' us that permanently exists (almost God-like themselves) and a 'lesser' us that we create to experience and learn.

[blackhole]

I think someone once used souls moving in and out of hell to prove that the universe was exothermic

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[iamzack]

There's no Divine consequence for them. It takes a fool to believe in an afterlife so strongly as to risk being LAPD'd through the head for it

Is that quite harsh what you said.

So what you believe after you die.

I suppose I'm more a supporter of reincarnation, I don't think there's a God up there that judges my actions as such, but I kind of like the idea that each time we go round the wheel, we are learning something for a purpose, good or bad, it's experience.

I think that when you die, you are sent back to learn more, somewhere else, someone else, maybe not even human, but I don't think your actions in one life define what you come back as.

It'd be nice to think we are all an attempt by the Universe to understand itself, that all life is exactly that, similar to the question of whether 'God' can create a puzzle so complex that even He cannot solve it, and that we are that puzzle.

Reincarnation is fun to think about. I rather like the idea that maybe you don't come back immediately, though. Like you get a break in between to chill with other folks.

Must admit, that would be nice, though, of course, if everyone you know has already started somewhere else, you might be a bit short of people to chat to, but even then, it's not impossible that there is a 'greater' us that permanently exists (almost God-like themselves) and a 'lesser' us that we create to experience and learn.

Like if we have an overarching personality, and only minor details are changed, depending on the life we are currently living? Awesome. XD

[Coolhand1980]

Wow dubee passing time

Amazing what decendants of amebia can think about eh?

[NGTM-1R]

Oh I never said religion was all evil. I simply said it was a product of our inherent self-absorbed nature. Religion, in that view, is a good thing, because it keeps us from being the nasty cheating whores we would be otherwise. At least, it tries to, but then you get priests who go about raping kids...

Call bull**** again, the portion of priests is identical to that of teachers.

[iamzack]

And police officers. And parents.

[Flipside]

I remember seeing a scene from Babylon 5, whilst describing souls, where a light was shone on a wall, and G'Kar was saying that we fool ourselves into thinking that the light comes from the wall, when in truth it is just a projection of what is coming from the torch.

I always thought that was simply awesome, and wouldn't it be wonderful if that was somewhere near the truth

Edit: And wouldn't it be better if you could bunny ears in that projection

[iamzack]

:[ You done lost me.

[Flipside]

:[ You done lost me.

Basically, that what we perceive as 'us' is just a projection made by our 'greater' selves. It's a short summary really of what I'd stated earlier.

[blackhole]

:[ You done lost me.

Basically, that what we perceive as 'us' is just a projection made by our 'greater' selves. It's a short summary really of what I'd stated earlier.

So how do we then explain the fact that there were about 2 million of us and there are now almost 7 billion of us?

[iamzack]

Oh, oh. I get it nao. XD

Like the whole world is the best MMRPG ever. Like, so great we forget the "real" world while we play it.

[iamzack]

:[ You done lost me.

Basically, that what we perceive as 'us' is just a projection made by our 'greater' selves. It's a short summary really of what I'd stated earlier.

So how do we then explain the fact that there were about 2 million of us and there are now almost 7 billion of us?

Well, there used to be a couple million buffalo in N. America and now there's like sixteen. We don't have a monopoly on life and death. There's trees, too.