[Androgeos Exeunt]

The reason why didn't want to put Kaysers or Morningstars or Tornados or Trebuchets on warships is because they wanted to avoid seeing BoE.

Imagine if the Colossus had all its blob turrets and missile launchers replaced with the above. Put it alongside a Sathanas, and the next you know is that the Shivan Juggernaut will have its entire broadside weaponry smooshed.

[Commander Zane]

Not really, even the use of the Akheton on the Sathanas's subsystems is like trying to break apart a car-sized chunk of diamond with a twig (Yeah, what are the chances of finding one that big in the first place? ).

And the Trebuchets do no more than perhaps 5% subsystem damage to it (At least from what I see).

[Droid803]

Unless the Sathanas had similar weaponry...then it'd be two hunks floating around without guns.

[azile0]

It takes about 4 Helios to kill one BFRed. FOUR. HELIOS. And that does about 2-5% Hull damage total. I remember that I once just weighted down the Control key, and turned on time compression. I came back 10 minutes real-time later, still shooting. The Sath is a real bugger.

[Commander Zane]

Unless the Sathanas had similar weaponry...then it'd be two hunks floating around without guns.

Again, it wouldn't. The only and ONLY weapons that do any severe subsystem damage to either two of these ships are the Helios. Kayser / Morningstar and Tornado / Trebuchet level weapons would do nothing more than scratch each other's paint.

[terran_emperor]

I don't know - you arm a bunch of fighters with the Maxim, you can snipe out turrets/subsystems with great ease - despite what TrashMan once argued at great length

Agree nothing is worse then a multi front war without the adequate resources or the will to carry it out.

Only an idiot fights a war on 2 fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots fights a war on 12 fronts

[terran_emperor]

the hattie is not round... the arrow like head is quite good in terms of scaring.. the problem is the body... it gets "fat" and thats will give everyone that impresion you are talking about.

Still as droid said... it's just a matter of time before someone htl's that model and then it will be something different indeed.

hattie to me looks like a Hoover (vacuum cleaner for US HLPers)

[Rodo]

check the credits from FS2, there you'll see a concept art of the hattie.

tell me what would you think about something like that in game.

[Commander Zane]

That would be nice as hell.

And a wingless Hecate looks fugly beyond comprehension.

[Rhymes]

It takes about 4 Helios to kill one BFRed. FOUR. HELIOS. And that does about 2-5% Hull damage total. I remember that I once just weighted down the Control key, and turned on time compression. I came back 10 minutes real-time later, still shooting. The Sath is a real bugger.

   You DO know that it's impossible for a fighter to kill anything larger than a cruiser unless they use a weapon with the HUGE flag (i.e. Cyclops and Helios) right? Cause just rubber-banding the trigger isn't going to kill a Sath, EVER.

[Droid803]

Yeah, they'll sit at 1% after you time compress for 2 years.
The damage reduction is logarithmic beginning at 10% for HUGE and 75% for SUPERCAP.

[Rhymes]

Unless, of course, you use SSLs   .

[ShadowGorrath]

But that's cheating and further breaking the laws of physics.

[Rhymes]

But it's fun.    Besides, having a Sath on your killcount is pretty freakin' cool.

[Mongoose]

It takes about 4 Helios to kill one BFRed. FOUR. HELIOS.

Two, if you're not doing it wrong.

[General Battuta]

But it's fun.    Besides, having a Sath on your killcount is pretty freakin' cool.

It's not hard at all to get a Sath on your killcount. Simply tell your wingmen to ignore the Sath and engage fighters instead, disarm all the beams yourself, wait for the Colossus to beam it -- and voila, you have a Sath kill.

Beam damage doesn't count towards kills.

[Rhymes]

Oh yeah.  Forgot about that. 

You gotta admit, though, it's pretty satisfying if you can just pull the trigger and watch it explode.

[General Battuta]

Oh yeah.  Forgot about that. 

You gotta admit, though, it's pretty satisfying if you can just pull the trigger and watch it explode.

Indeed.

I like turning my primary weapons into AAA beams and doing strafing runs.

[eliex]

The Question of the Day: What is white blindness compared to unparalleled destruction!! 

[Dilmah G]

But it's fun.    Besides, having a Sath on your killcount is pretty freakin' cool.

I got that somehow by playing retail high noon, i got promoted twice in a row   

It takes about 4 Helios to kill one BFRed. FOUR. HELIOS.

Two, if you're not doing it wrong.

Yeah, pop your warheads under 250 metres out from the side facing outwards from the centre of the beam cannon. But I don't mean attack from broadside, head-on but make sure the warheads hit the very outside tip and it should be down.