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Offline Setekh

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How did they miss the Knossos?
The reports say that a GTSC ship investigated the system and found nothing, right? But in the footage, it shows the SC Behemoth jumping out and taking out the Aeolus cruiser nearby as soon as it emerged from subspace. But if this was so, wouldn't that mean the Aeolus would have been right next to the portal? So how did they miss it?

A mistake, I guess. Or they wanted the effect of the ship being blasted by surprise  
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Offline Shrike

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Because when they missed it, it was turned off, what, 15 years ealier?

Don't forget that the science cruiser probably has sensors the Aeolus didn't.
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Offline Ace

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How did they miss the Knossos?
The Aeolus was ambushed in the Capella system during a routine patrol, the Shivan cruiser jumped from the nebula, through Gamma Draconis, and into Capella where it attacked the Vigilant which was at the node on standard patrol.

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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Ace:
The Aeolus was ambushed in the Capella system during a routine patrol

Oh! D'oh!    
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Offline NeoHunter

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Go play the game again!!!!!

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How did they miss the Knossos?
What I'm wondering is how a Rakshasa could take out an Aeolus. The Aeolus has the strongest cruiser hull in the game, and some very effective beam turrets and flak cannons.

I ran it in FRED2 three times, and the Aeolus won two of them. In the losing scenario, it was disabled and pounded from the rear by the Rak's beams and its escort fighters.

 

Offline Shrike

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How did they miss the Knossos?
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WTF?  3 SReds beam 2 SGreens any day of the weak and twice on sundays.....

Anyhow, the Rak and the Aeolus have roughly similar hull strength, with the weaponry heavily favored in the Rak's favor.
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Ramius

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Yeah, but the Aeolus AI sems to be a ported, upgraded version of the Leviathan. It works well with "flank and fire" maneuvers, and if it doesn't get pounded by the Raks heavy beams when she exits the node, the Rak is very vulnerable on the rear and rear flanks.

 

Offline Setekh

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Hey Ramius, would you be willing to do some more testing of ships like that scenario?  
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Offline NeoHunter

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Yeah. Expecially the Aeolus and two Myrmidon's versus the Ravana destroyer in a render somewhere on this forum. Hehehe

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How did they miss the Knossos?
Well, the Rakshasa has to hit the Aeolus twice with its heavy beams and boom. I made a mission of this incident once, and my cruiser plus some Herc II's blasted the Shivans back into the nebula.

 

Offline Jabu

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Originally posted by Ramius:
The Aeolus has the strongest cruiser hull in the game,
The Lilith does, actually. And even the Mentu has a much stronger hull than the Aeolus.

 
How did they miss the Knossos?
Did you have the Rakshasa pointing at the Aeolus?

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Offline Setekh

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How did they miss the Knossos?
The Rakshasa in the cbanim jumped straight in 90 degrees to the Aeolus (it was attacking its port side). It opened up with 3 SReds from its belly (or something on the bottom - can't quite remember).
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How did they miss the Knossos?
The Aeolus probably got waxed because it was not ready to fight.  This ship has to most boring and routine assingment, guard a jumpgate that leads to nowhere.  

The captain was probably asleep or the guns weren't heated up.  Think about it as if it where real life, not a game.  The crew would be half-asleep and they wouldn't be at a heightened state of alert.  They got waxed because they weren't lasy.... period.
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Offline Snipes

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How did they miss the Knossos?
They didn't even know there was a jump gate.... It was just there...

I'll bet the crew was taken off active duty cause they had such a crappy ship  
     
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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Falcon X:
The captain was probably asleep or the guns weren't heated up.  Think about it as if it where real life, not a game.  The crew would be half-asleep and they wouldn't be at a heightened state of alert.  They got waxed because they weren't lasy.... period.

Good point. You wouldn't expect anything, anyway.
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Offline NeoHunter

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How did they miss the Knossos?
More people get killed in wars because they are just plain lazy. *Shakes head*

No one would expect the Shivans to come through the Gamma Draconis system. But if you come to think of it, if the Shivans could enter the Ross 128 system without the GTA knowing that there may be a jump node there, isn't the possiblity that the Shivans might come through any other unknown jump node in GTVA space be a good reason to be on their guard?

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Offline Shrike

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How did they miss the Knossos?
You can't be on your guard every moment of your life.  Even if they were on their guard, they still wouldn't have weapons hot and damage control on standby.  You simply cannot do that during peacetime conditions.  It destroys both equipment and morale.
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How did they miss the Knossos?
 
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It destroys both equipment and morale.
Unless your in a computer game  



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