Author Topic: WIP Zephyrus (Read 26168 times)

Enioch · **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:08:19 pm

There.

And yes, I know the texture doesn't show any docking stuff. Trust me, it'll be there.

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Enioch · **Reply #61 on:** February 23, 2009, 05:58:06 am

New antenna 'boom', as yet un-mapped and -textured.

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Retsof · **Reply #62 on:** February 23, 2009, 10:44:56 pm

What are these "teeth" evryone is talking about? Oh, and sweet model by the way

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Droid803 · **Reply #63 on:** February 23, 2009, 11:48:39 pm

Look at the other HTL Zephyrus's prow.
Its got 'teeth'

Enioch · **Reply #64 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:09:50 pm

Quote from: Droid803 on February 23, 2009, 11:48:39 pm

Look at the other HTL Zephyrus's prow.
Its got 'teeth'

And so will this one, albeit textured ones...

Sorry for the long wait, but I had some issues with my new 9800GT. Got it running fine now. (BTW, that thing is a monster! I never was one for the 'big' GPUs and this one is easily the most powerful brute I have ever seen...

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I am toying around with the texture. Is this better than the 'cartoonish' stuff I have been showing off? Quite honestly, I don't think I can do better...

BTW, the 'wiring' is unaffected. I'm just talking about the panels.

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Raven2001 · **Reply #65 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:13:54 pm

Getting much better on the texture side

You know, 80% of what defines if a texture renders realistically or not is actually the shine map not the difuse... in fact the specular map can make or break a texture. So keep that in mind

Enioch · **Reply #66 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:17:32 pm

Quote from: Raven2001 on March 02, 2009, 01:13:54 pm

Getting much better on the texture side

Right. It's good to hear that.

Quote from: Raven2001 on March 02, 2009, 01:13:54 pm

You know, 80% of what defines if a texture renders realistically or not is actually the shine map not the difuse... in fact the specular map can make or break a texture. So keep that in mind

About that...Where can I find a decent tutorial on how to do shine maps? I mean, I have found some tuts for shinemaps in other games, but I dunno how to make them for FSO.

I'm particularly confused about that alpha-channel-being-environment-map thingamajig.

Raven2001 · **Reply #67 on:** March 02, 2009, 02:07:57 pm

Its basically the same as in other games.

I never did enviro maps for FS, but iirc, in photoshop, if you create an extra channel (besides R, G and B ones), it will determine where the the texture will be reflective like a mirror (white= full reflection; black= no reflection).

So in this case you don't have to worry about that.
You don't need tutorials to create spec maps for FS, since everything is metallic

What I usually do is grab the difuse texture, raise the contrast (levels in photoshop), apply a small noise and voila. Sometimes I have to reduce the saturation a bit after all that.

But the rule of thumb is, in the spec map, the brightest a pixel is, the more shiny it will appear in-game... don't fall in the error of doing grayscale spec maps though

Enioch · **Reply #68 on:** March 05, 2009, 12:59:49 pm

Like this?

In game, with the tanks in their full glory!

I know, they're a little too shiny. I'll fix that soon.

And the antenna boom is still in early WIP.

BTW, is there a way to get decent quality in-game shots?

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FreeSpaceFreak · **Reply #69 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:10:56 pm

Nice work on the model overall

Though I think the textures could use some work... They look a bit "cartoonish" right now, more like plastic than like metal.

Enioch · **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:23:45 pm

Quote from: FreeSpaceFreak on March 05, 2009, 01:10:56 pm

Nice work on the model overall Though I think the textures could use some work... They look a bit "cartoonish" right now, more like plastic than like metal.

SILENCE! I KILL you!

BTW, the second screenie is wrong.

I selected an older version by mistake. I am going to fix0r it...

EDIT: Fix0red...

Jadehawk · **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:26:19 pm

About the only way to get a good screen shot is to have it in a mission. Launch the mission and fly up to the ship, hit SHIFT+O and your HUD will dissappear so you can make a clean screen shot. Take your screen shots and when done, hit SHIFT+O again to bring back your HUD.

FoxtrotTango · **Reply #72 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:26:58 pm

The engines look kind of like a Hercules was jury-rigged for the position, but it still looks well-made to me. I like what you're doing with the gas tanks in the front of the miner, by the way. If there was a way to make it look as if there was really colored deuterium gas inside of those containers, that would be perfect.

Enioch · **Reply #73 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:29:47 pm

The only way I can think of is animated glow maps.

Doable, but I remember reading something about them not working right in3.6.10?

I could be wrong. Talk to one of the big guys.

And you're right about the engines. Blame

Galemp · **Reply #74 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:34:19 pm

Cool... really glad to see it in-game and everything.

Are you forgetting glowmaps? I don't see any windows, or the trademark yellow glow of the aft docking port.

An animated texture and/or glowmap could go well on the gas tanks, especially if they're mapped using a separate texture from the main hull. I know for a fact they do work; just look at the belly of the GVG Anuket.

Enioch · **Reply #75 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:40:53 pm

Quote from: Galemp on March 05, 2009, 01:34:19 pm

Are you forgetting glowmaps? I don't see any windows, or the trademark yellow glow of the aft docking port.

Yep. No glowmaps yet. The diffuse texture is still WIP, so...yeah. I only exported it to make sure I get how the shinemaps work.

I get it, BTW.

Quote from: Galemp on March 05, 2009, 01:34:19 pm

I know for a fact they do work; just look at the belly of the GVG Anuket.

YES! I'll make sure and animate stuff...

Enioch · **Reply #76 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:33:18 am

Can you guess...

...what this is?

Yellow glow for the kicks. I'm too bored to play with the diffuse maps right now...

ARSPR · **Reply #77 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:45:39 am

Quote from: Enioch on March 05, 2009, 01:40:53 pm

YES! I'll make sure and animate stuff...

Enioch, although animated texture are great, they use a lot of memory (in fact you are using n textures). So I would recommend:

Make a static good looking version. This would be the standard one.
Then make an animated eff version. This would be the enhanced one.
(Try to use the SMALLEST possible size for your animated, (and then multiplied), textures. Maybe a 2048x2048 is OK for the base texture if needed, but it's hard to justify ten 2048x2048 glow map frames. Use smaller sizes here).

Enioch · **Reply #78 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:50:12 am

Duly noted.

The tanks (which will be the only animated bits) are separately textured, with a 512^2 map (which I might knock down to 256^2). That's the size of the animated texture as well...

ARSPR · **Reply #79 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:39:24 am

Quote from: Enioch on March 06, 2009, 10:50:12 am

Duly noted.

The tanks (which will be the only animated bits) are separately textured, with a 512^2 map (which I might knock down to 256^2). That's the size of the animated texture as well...

Remember you can have different mixed texture sizes and nothing happens. Example:

Base map: 512 x 512
Glow map: 256 x 256
Optional animated glow map: 10 frames with 128 x 128

It's up to you, who is the author

. Just remember to find a good balance between quality and resource usage.

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