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Offline Ghostavo

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"Closing the Box" - a campaign in the making :nervous:

Shrike is a dirty dirty admin, he's the destroyer of souls... oh god, let it be glue...

 

Offline Blue Lion

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Correlation under no circumstances implies causation.

You just said that so someone would use today's comic.  :p

 

Offline Kosh

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1.) most of the stimulus bill doesn't take effect until a year before the next election, and it is aimed at lobbyists, not what is needed.

2.) people have been talking about healthcare reform since election in '92, and it didn't happen. It didn't happen because of entrenched lobbying interests as well as scaremongering. I don't expect anything to change this time around.

3.) I'll give him credit on the rest of that stuff.
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Offline General Battuta

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Correlation under no circumstances implies causation.

You just said that so someone would use today's comic.  :p

Gah! But I don't even read XKCD!

Look, you idiots, it just happened to occur on the same day! Correlation doesn't imply causation!

 

Offline The E

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Quote from: xkcd
Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'.

You were saying?  :D
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Offline Polpolion

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Correlation under no circumstances implies causation.

You just said that so someone would use today's comic.  :p

Gah! But I don't even read XKCD!

Look, you idiots, it just happened to occur on the same day! Correlation doesn't imply causation!

 :lol:

 

Offline S-99

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Correlation created causation of the movie...the beast of yucca flats.

........flag on the moon.........how'd it get there?
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Correlation created causation of the movie...the beast of yucca flats.

........flag on the moon.........how'd it get there?

Progress.
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Offline S-99

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Progress.
Oh yeah. Out at yucca you need to watch for some big fat bald dude with oatmeal all over his face that is uncivilized.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

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Offline Charismatic

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Put all garbage and toxic waste on a NASA flight to space. Make a crappy cargo xport. Load it up, and send that bastard into the sun. Problem solved.
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Offline redsniper

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Put all garbage and toxic waste on a NASA flight to space.
We can't.
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Offline Hellstryker

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Put all garbage and toxic waste on a NASA flight to space.
We can't. won't.

Fixed.

 

Offline Kosh

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Put all garbage and toxic waste on a NASA flight to space.
We can't.


That would mean giving NASA more money, can't have that.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Inquisitor

You guys might want to read up on that one. It was seriously considered.
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Offline Flaser

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Maybe I dreamed it up but weren't the Japanese testing some sort of Plasma incinerator a few years ago that you could probably put nuclear waste in and the plasma reaction would have it come out the otherside as a relatively harmless substance.  You could even use it for building materials they were saying....

Overly optimistic tests that never panned out?

Call or not, he directly wasted 9 BILLION DOLLARS we cant affoard!
If what Inquisitor is saying is right then its likely that the gains in geology and hydrology research are worth quite a bit on its own.

Plus to put into context 9 billion over 20 years is a drop in the bucket. More is spent in a month on Afganistan and Iraq.

The only problem with shutting it down is that there doesn't appear to be a new plan and they desperately need a new plan for dealing with nuclear waste.  My bet is on some sort of technology to reuse or eliminate it instead of holding it around...holding it somewhere seems unsustainable to me.

Incineration is NOT an option. You'd have to transmute ("perform alchemy") on the elements themselves to make them non-radioactive.

Another couple of things to consider:
America right now uses a really wasteful nuclear (power plant) doctrine. You use the fuel in a single fuel-cycle, then bury it forever. Used nuclear fuel cartridges still contain a high (you could say, majority) of still viable fuel. The fuel in this case is fissionable material.

The problem is, that this fuel was dirtied by short half-life highly radioactive fission by products in the reactor. To use it again, you have to separate these elements. This procedure is called Reprocessing and is a sound technique with established methods.

The reason why the US was so against it, is that the process also involves separating the plutonium from the fuel, therefore automatically creating material for atomic weapons. (Though frankly you could use plutonium in a nuclear reactor just the same as you do with enriched uranium).

This increases the chance of nuclear proliferation and makes the reprocessing plants highly sensitive areas as far as national security is concerned.

On the plus side, if reprocessing was used, the amount of nuclear waste to be stored could be lessened multi-fold. Instead storing the whole nuclear load of the reactors a tiny fraction - only the transmuted nuclear waste - would have to be safely "disposed of".
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Those are nice cross-sections on page 1. Structural geology nearly always leaves me :confused:

Yeah, I've heard about transmutation. From what I can remember only small amounts can be treated effectively that way. At present, anyway.

I'm just thinking off the top of my head here, but would using the space elevator concept to deliver waste into space be less risky than propelling it there via a spacecraft? I'm thinking about the absence of rockets and fuel, so there would be less chance of an explosion scattering radioactive waste into the atmosphere. I imagine it would be slower though, and there'd probably be lots of other problems I'm not thinking of.

 

Offline Flaser

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I fail to grasp why in the heavens the whole lot of you wants to bring this stuff into space and endanger the whole planet instead a limited region's water supply.
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I actually meant getting it into space and then into the sun, but I see your point.

There'd need to be some accurate "knowledge transfer" happening from one generation to the next if such waste is to be disposed of underground. You don't want someone drilling into it by accident 8,000 years later or something.

 

Offline Hellstryker

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Well, instead of the sun we could always just send it to some remote location on the moon where we have no plans of building a base or anything (pfft, like we have plans to do that anyway  :sigh:).

 

Offline redsniper

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We should just put it in the water on purpose and then we can all get superpowers.
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