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Are cruisers obsolete?

Yes!
15 (28.8%)
No!  They still have a role!
37 (71.2%)

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Voting closed: March 20, 2002, 07:50:47 am

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Offline LtNarol

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i've taken down a fenris alone before (in a perseus, probably shoul've taken a herc or a erin), they're no challenge

 
I think the development of the cruiser will be split in two directions, as it has been suggested.  I think that if cruisers were to be used in an anticap ship role, then the primary quality would be that the main beam has a very long range, and second has high damage.  Range is important when fighting ships that are far larger than the cruiser, allowing it to fight outside of the range of the enemies anit ship beams and thus avoid being taken out by the supirior number and power of the beams on the larger vessel.

By taking this approach, the cruiser would serve an invaluable supporting role, both in large fleet engagments, and even in strike missions.

At the same time cruisers that are built to take on fighters and bombers would also have a very useful prupose.  Not only can they be important in convoy escort, but they can prove crucial in providing additonal protection for larger warships, which thend to balance antiship capabilities with anti fighter capabilites.  In this role the vessel should probably one have one ter shalsher at the most, for use against easy targets like freighters.

All in all I do not believe that the death of the cruiser has come, but that only an evolutionary stage has arrived where ships are built more to play specific roles and thus work together to protect each other, rather than every ship trying to do every role.

 

Offline Stunaep

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All in all I do not believe that the death of the cruiser has come, but that only an evolutionary stage has arrived where ships are built more to play specific roles and thus work together to protect each other, rather than every ship trying to do every role.


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Offline CP5670

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i've taken down a fenris alone before (in a perseus, probably shoul've taken a herc or a erin), they're no challenge


You just have to take an Ares or Sekhmet with a Maxim, and sit back and pound away. :D (anyone who has played Rebel Intercept will know what I mean;) )

 

Offline Blue Lion

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Fastest way to get promoted ;) Or was.....

 

Offline LtNarol

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RI is still the fasted way to get promoted, it takes less time to finish than that Cetanu mission.  As for the Fenris, i killed one with Subachs before, they're hull is made out of paper, with maxim it takes less than 3 seconds in an ares.

 

Offline Setekh

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On the original subject, cruisers rule. give me the same hitpoints in Liliths instead of a Sathanas any day... ;)


Oh heck yeah... :) How many Liliths is that, anyway? :)
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1,000,000 / 75,000 = 13 Liliths, with 25000 hp left over for a Rahu and a Fenris. ;)
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Lol, so you know your HPs, huh? :D
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Offline Nico

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or he's less lazy than i am and did open the ships tbl to check :D
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Offline CP5670

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Lol, so you know your HPs, huh? :D


I've spent so much time tinkering with the table sfiles that I think I've picked up most of them by now. :D

 

Offline Shrike

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Lol, so you know your HPs, huh? :D
It's not that hard to remember.  Most ships are fairly standard actually.
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It's not that hard to remember.  Most ships are fairly standard actually.


True, I suppose. I just haven't looked at the tables for a LONG time. ;)
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Offline Mad Bomber

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Okay here are my thoughts:

1) Cruisers are very useful in terms of mobility. Two or three cruisers can be in more places at once than one corvette.

2) Even though not many people do this with Terran or Vasudan designs, anticap cruisers are l33t.

3) Cruisers are faster than corvettes, so they can chase things.

4) Why not give cruisers some AWACS ability? It's not out of the question. AWACS that can actually defend themselves, wow what an idea. :)
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Offline Grey Wolf

What, you mean like a Sathanas? :D
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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
4) Why not give cruisers some AWACS ability? It's not out of the question. AWACS that can actually defend themselves, wow what an idea. :)


Hey... :p
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awacs equipment most often requires massive amounts of space and as less powerups built up by the ship itself otherwise  the weapons powerups would interfere with the awacs scanning equipment... this also includes FS it seems
Bah who needeed the Colossus when all we needed was 30 Fenrises