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Offline Darkage

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I am working on the pegasus fighter and i want to make the textures completele black and also the thruster.ani's but can the hostile ships still see the ships at 500 meters?

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Offline Sushi

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I don't think the AI cares what texture the ship is. A solid black Pegasus would be really cool for certain campaigns, though... but at least leave the engines. You gotta have SOME way to find the thing!  



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Offline Warlock

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I made a fighter completly cloaked once and the AI's tore it up  

Only way to make the computer not see it is to set it as stealthed.

(It was still fun for a bit flying around in a see through fighter lol)

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Offline Nico

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to have a completly invisible fighter, put a green map on it (000.255.000). That looks great for some effects, and I'm using it for my TC (don't ask please), but unfortunately, voodoo 2 cards doesn't seems to handle it, so I have to make a black map along the green one for voodoo2 users (hehe a patch for a user made thingy, -that's the way developpers are working, why not us  )

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Offline Darkage

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Hehe ill try that i got a voodoo2,but soon ill have p3 1ghz and a voodoo5 5000

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Offline Styxx

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Voodoo3 cards also go bugger with transparent maps. Works really fine on my Viper v770, though. We should test it out on several cards and make a list of the "transparency compliant" ones.
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Offline Darkage

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Originally posted by Styxx:
Voodoo3 cards also go bugger with transparent maps. Works really fine on my Viper v770, though. We should test it out on several cards and make a list of the "transparency compliant" ones.

Good idea

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Offline Nico

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My ATI Radeon All In Wonder 32mo works fine with transparent maps  
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Offline Martinus

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Hmmm, strange, I have a voodoo3 3000 and I put a bunch of transparent texs. in Homeworld. There was no problem at all. Is the problem related to the freespace engine or is it just something that the card is not supposed to support?

If FS2 engine supports transparancy why have I not seen fighters with cockpit detail?  

 

Offline Max Sterling

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She seems to have an invisible ship, yeah...

she reaches in, and grabs right hold of your stealth...



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Offline Nico

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that's a problem with invisible colour on the 3d models related to the FS2 engine. invisible maps works fine in the interface, right?  

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Offline Darkage

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Originally posted by venom2506:
that's a problem with invisible colour on the 3d models related to the FS2 engine. invisible maps works fine in the interface, right?  


I never used invisible maps but iam still working on the ship Then ill know

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Offline JarC

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Ok, this may be a hairbrain idea, but maybe it can work and with the right texture...why not flip normals on a model 'on purpose'?
Doesn't this create a 'transparant' model?

Ultimately it would be cool if it works the same as whut you sometimes see with the large capships in FS1 (the side closest to you becoming transparant only here it would be permanently?) So if you had a starry sky as texture, it would only show on the inside of the model?



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Offline Nico

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nope, that doesn't work, you see the other face from the inside lol. that looks weird, but not very cool.
For the starry texture, I did not understand. Soùeone else,I can't help, please  

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Offline JarC

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Originally posted by venom2506:
nope, that doesn't work, you see the other face from the inside lol.

That's just exactly what I mean   and if you made a texture to take advantage of that...

 
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that looks weird, but not very cool.
For the starry texture, I did not understand. Soùeone else,I can't help, please  

As in 'Sky At Night'? put a texture of a nightsky with stars in the model? So it has some 'natural' camouflage?


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Offline Sushi

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I see what you're getting at...it would look like a shifting in the stars if you did it right. Cool idea!  

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Offline Warlock

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"Alpha 1, did I just see a patch of stars fly past that Orion destroyer?"

I stil like the all green transparency   That way when you fly by a cap ship or other "none black with white dots" effect, you're still not spotted  

Now what I'd LOVE to figure out, (this willrequire code thou) would be a way to say key a button to swap texture maps on your fighter, as in SL when you cloak  



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