[Sushi]

Hi,

Is it possible to have the flight physics (gliding and/or sidethrust) from "Beyond the Red Line" in any other FS2 mod (or in the original campaign?) Yes, I know it will probably do wonky things to mission balance, but let's pretend for a moment that I don't care.

If it is possible, how do I do it?

I've been away from FS2 for a very long time (since the end of 2001 or so) and I finally came back to discover that a whole heck of a lot has happened. I may have to rebuy the game soon. I'd love to play the OC and all those custom campaigns again with the new graphics updates and (hopefully) this cool physics stuff.

On a related note, are there any other campaigns/mods that use that flight model?

[Mobius]

Welcome to the HLPBB!!!

http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.130

http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.168

http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.452

One question - are you the same Sushi who created the original velocity mod?

[Sushi]

One question - are you the same Sushi who created the original velocity mod?

As a matter of fact, yes. Do those things even still work? Cool!

The RealFlight mod looks pretty cool, I'll have to check that out... if I'm reading this correctly, FS2_Open now allows all of the fun sidethrust/glide stuff just by modifying the ship tables? Perfect!

Which means I'm probably going to need to stop by GoG and buy a fresh copy of FS2.

Oh, I've read something about using MOD folders to make it easier to swap mods in and out. Could you point me to an explanation of how those work? Thanks!

[Mobius]

Here you are.

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Installing_Mods_for_FS2_Open

You may also wish to check this as well:

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Modular_Tables

[asyikarea51]

Hey there.

And yes, your velocity mod still works... lol I use it and I can't quite tolerate the standard speeds anymore XD

[Mobius]

High speeds are closer to the FreeSpace universe - watch the cutscenes to find out.

Also, I have the impressions that high speeds lead to cooler and longer dogfights.

[asyikarea51]

For my case I simply got influenced by real life aircraft and a couple games and shows here and there... and I don't see this newfound interest of mine dying out anytime soon.

seeker open.

[lostllama]

Also, I have the impressions that high speeds lead to cooler and longer dogfights.

Ya, me too.

[Mobius]

I'm afraid that the code isn't ready to support high speeds, though...

[Sushi]

I can't find a link to the 1.2 version of RealFlight FS2. There's a 1.1 link here:

http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.454

and the 1.2 link referenced below is broken:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47069.0.html

Anywhere else to look?


And I'm glad that people are still enjoying the Velocity Mod.

[lostllama]

Unfortunately the author of the RealFlight mods, Joshua, lost his original files about a year or so ago. I noticed that those links were broken so I uploaded what I had DL'd to FSMods, but I don't have version 1.2.

Edited to compensate for lostllama's random numptyness.

[Sushi]

Yeah, I just read the thread with the whole story (the one with the broken link above). So nobody has appeared with a copy of 1.2 that they downloaded before Joshua lost the originals? Weird.

Speaking of that thread, someone in the thread mentioned the "$use newtonian dampening" flag. How does this work? It dounds like it affects all ships, but the documentation I found puts it with "Ai profiles.tbl", which confuses me. Same for "$use additive weapon velocity," which sounds fun too.

I gather that neither of these is part of realFlight? How do I modify those flags?

EDIT: At any rate, it looks like FS2 (and mods) can now be about as newtonian "as you want it." Which, IMO, is perfect, and hugely exciting. After playing other games (most notably Allegiance) I get extremely frustrated not being able to sidethrust etc.

[lostllama]

GAH..... *slaps self*

Sorry Sushi - I DO in fact have version 1.2 - see attached. I'll try and upload it to FSMods too; I was having trouble with it last time. It's v1.2b that I don't have.

As with the other versions, I'm not sure it'll work 100% as intended with newer builds and mediavps.

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[Mobius]

Speaking of that thread, someone in the thread mentioned the "$use newtonian dampening" flag. How does this work? It dounds like it affects all ships, but the documentation I found puts it with "Ai profiles.tbl", which confuses me. Same for "$use additive weapon velocity," which sounds fun too.

I gather that neither of these is part of realFlight? How do I modify those flags?

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Ai_profiles.tbl#use_newtonian_dampening

[lostllama]

OK v1.2 now uploaded to FSMods as well. I think it's SCP-only.

EDIT: I'm just not with it today. Tested it briefly using retail FS2, and it seems to work, but as said, I haven't fully tested it.

[Mobius]

Did you use .tbm files instead of .tbls?

[lostllama]

The mod comprises a weapons.tbl and an inertia-shp.tbm.

I think I've read somewhere that there's a "preference" for certain file types regarding .tbls and .tbms for FSO, or something like that - is that right? I'm not knowledgable about that stuff.

[Mobius]

The mod should make use of two .tbms instead.

Those files are to add/replace important values to turn on the velocity mod. Adding whole entries means that Velocity tables will probably conflict with the others.

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Modular_Tables

[lostllama]

BTW I was referring to RealFlight 1.2 in that last post (in case that wasn't apparent).

[Mobius]

And I was refering to the perfect Velocity mod (two .tbms).