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Offline ssmit132

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Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Do we need to stop eating the oceans?

I just wanted to know what you thought about this. I think he has a really good point, and he is talking about it from a sustainability point of view, which makes it sound as reasonable as phasing out fossil fuels and stopping chopping down the Amazon. :nod:

 

Offline Cyker

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Well, you could make this argument about every resource on the planet; Water, fuel, crops, animals, ores.

And if you look at things that way, the only real solution is KILL ALL HUMANS :nervous:

There was another article out saying that we have already breached the sustainable limit of humans on this planet, i.e. there are now too many people vs the # of resources on the planet.


The real trick is balance; We are omnivores after all!
Not eating one thing just means another thing will have the same problem, and we waste so much anyway which doesn't help matters.

I personally want us to accelerate the space program so we can leave this rock and go create new worlds to wreck! (And then get eaten by Shivans. ;))

 

Offline Wanderer

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Fishermen get better fishing equipment, get better and larger trawlers, use floating factories to process the catch on site. All in all increasing efficiency by several orders of magnitude.

And then they wonder why have the oceans started to run out of fish...  Gee... lemme think...
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Offline captain-custard

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
the problem with fishing is that it is rape and pillage , no techniques used to help fish stocks stay high is used (with the exception of a few places in the world)

if you want to eat fish and feel ok about it go catch it and kill ityoreself , that way there will be no waste and no officials arriving at te docks and spraying the fish with paint to keep the price high.........;


basically we as a planet have to look at how we manage fishing with a return to smaller ships that cannot spend months at sea processing there catch , and to create fishereies that release fish into the ocean to help restock it


but as i mentioned earlier the only way to eat fish is to catch it yourself !

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Offline S-99

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
We are advanced beings at the top of the food chain. We aren't simple like horses or cows. Horses and cows have a very simple diet and can't eat much anything else. We humans have to eat multiple different types of food in order to get all of our nutrients. Now wouldn't it be nice if we only at one type of food? It'd be a lot easier.
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Offline captain-custard

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
We are advanced beings at the top of the food chain. We aren't simple like horses or cows. Horses and cows have a very simple diet and can't eat much anything else. We humans have to eat multiple different types of food in order to get all of our nutrients. Now wouldn't it be nice if we only at one type of food? It'd be a lot easier.


it would also aid with our mass extinction........
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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
if you want to eat fish and feel ok about it go catch it and kill ityoreself ,
Ironically I used to think exactly the opposite, since many people go out and catch fish themselves for leisure.

 

Offline Janos

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
The oceans have been completely raped, the fish stocks have plummeted, entire ecosystems have collapsed.

It really cannot be stressed enough that the current large-scale fishing has pretty much destroyed the seas.

lol wtf

 

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Sorry, but I still want my sea kitten every once in a while. That article may have some grains of truth in it, but overall it's written far too alarmistic for me to take it seriously.
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Offline Snail

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Long had we been the destroyer.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
id like to see the end of factory trawlers, all theyre good for is making fish sticks and other such abominations posing as seafood. id rather pay a little more and get higher quality sea food. the real problem is people need to learn how to ****ing coock, stop eating at fast foos joints and out of boxes. beer batter, it works.
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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
I'd like to see an end to whaling and shark fishing (or whatever people call it <_<).

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
I'd like to see an end to whaling and shark fishing (or whatever people call it <_<).
:doubt:

And I'd like to see an end to people eating beef! It's unethical! :rolleyes:

 

Offline Flipside

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
It's humanity in a nutshell find something good, abuse it to the point where it is no longer useful, and then complain that they've run out and no-one will do anything to help them, when it was their responsibility.

I'm not a vast fan of fish anyway, I eat occasionally, but very rarely, but with the supplies of North Sea Cod dropping to frightening levels, an with Tuna, Mackeral and Salmon all headed in the same direction through over-fishing, yes, we need to learn moderation, fish is a vital food supply, we cannot simply stop, but we do need to get some hard and fast international laws in place. Then, of course, you have to worry about the livelihoods of Fishermen who get paid by how much they catch.

The big danger is that countries are very funny about 'international waters' and 'territorial waters', the borders on land are pretty hard and fast, but there have very nearly been wars over where a countries influence extends into the ocean (UK and Iceland nearly came to blows about that a good few years ago). That's why these rules need to be international, and apply to every ocean, but the chances are that Nordic countries, which rely heavily on the income, and Japan, who, despite being the most modern country in the world, still go and hunt whales for fat which is no longer needed, would simply boycott such a rule, and there's limited powers to enforce them.

Edit: The thing is, 60 years ago, a fisherman used old equipment and was trying to earn enough to keep the house and feed the family, nowadays, he/she is using Mass-Trawling devices and the objective is to line the pockets of a corporation, which is a far hungrier beast.

 

Offline Wanderer

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
I'd like to see an end to whaling and shark fishing (or whatever people call it <_<).
:doubt:

And I'd like to see an end to people eating beef! It's unethical! :rolleyes:
Well... i don't see a problem IF there are enough whales to be whaled... however i kinda doubt that.
 
On the shark fishing.. After getting sharks then ripping their fins off and tossing rest of the shark back to sea just because Chinese want shark fin soup as their delicacy is something that i find very offensive.
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Offline Snail

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
Yeah, but don't go railing on about the Zhong Guo Ren being the only offenders. That's all I wanted to say.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 02:50:28 pm by Snail »

 

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
It's the ultimate disgrace. How we treat the element which made life on this planet possible, the element that created us.
That said, I'm pretty sure humanity doesn't have the capability to actualy "destroy" the oceans (before wiping itself out, that is).

 

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
It's the ultimate disgrace. How we treat the element which made life on this planet possible, the element that created us.


There are a lot of people in Asia. And if they're just as hungry as  I am on a daily basis, they probably eat a lot of fish.

Funny enough, this will probably become a genuine problem in the next couple decades, as its already phasing into pop culture. A vegan friend of mine (I don't take vegans seriously, ever) really went off on me one night when we were in a biergarten in Vienna after I suggested she could at least get a salmon with  her brew. Like, she got really heated about it. So.. it might actually be true.

Not that I care... I don't really like fish anyway...

PS: If you guys want to do some serious research on this topic, I suggest watching "The Deadliest Catch" on Discovery channel to get a feel of what REAL Alaskan Crab fishing is like.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 02:37:52 pm by Knight Templar »
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Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
It's the ultimate disgrace. How we treat the element which made life on this planet possible, the element that created us.
That said, I'm pretty sure humanity doesn't have the capability to actualy "destroy" the oceans (before wiping itself out, that is).

Sort of like oil. There's plenty left, it's just the fact that getting to it costs more than it would be worth. Also, snail is going to bring the wrath of Kara down upon him for saying Chink  :rolleyes:

 
Re: Is eating seafood an unsustainable practice?
We have a clambake every year for my birthday. Those pricks can go suck the muzzle of a loaded shotgun.
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