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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
abstinence-only is NOT sex-ed. it is antisex-ed.

QFT!

We/You need PROPER sex-ed
Missed the "proper" word, true :P

But then again, it shouldn't be called sex-ed if it's not proper, right?

Exactly, to what Turambar said, Abstinence only ISN'T sex-ed

 

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
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Abstinence only ISN'T sex-ed

True.
But it's also the only 100%, foolproof way of avoiding STD's and unwanted pregnancies.
Nobody dies as a virgin - the life ****s us all!

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Offline Turambar

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
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Abstinence only ISN'T sex-ed

True.
But it's also the only 100%, foolproof way of avoiding STD's and unwanted pregnancies.

unless you live 2000 years ago and your name is Mary

it also never works, because people always have sex.  the ones who have self control are the ones who wouldnt be getting any anyways.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
it also never works, because people always have sex.  the ones who have self control are the ones who wouldnt be getting any anyways.

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Offline karajorma

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Abstinence Only doesn't work because while it may have some effect on the average age at which people start having sex it means that once they do, they have very little clue on how to prevent pregnancies or STIs or of the ramifications of either.

The end result is an increase in unwanted pregnancies and STIs.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
And really, who WANTS to practice Sexual Abstinence anyway?

You're dealing with TEENAGERS, the most rebellious age group to contend with (usually, and through their portrayal in the media)
And when considering these guys are dripping with testosterone, who the **** thought about abstinence only?

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
People who don't remember what being a teenager was like for the most part.
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Offline Sushi

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
And really, who WANTS to practice Sexual Abstinence anyway?

You're dealing with TEENAGERS, the most rebellious age group to contend with (usually, and through their portrayal in the media)
And when considering these guys are dripping with testosterone, who the **** thought about abstinence only?

I did. Worked great for me. :) Happily married now.

I do think that abstinence is a realistic option, even for horny teenagers.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Oh I dunno man, I AM a horny teenager :P And so is about 95% of all 15 year old males in developed countries I'd guess.
Porn, the media, and peer pressure don't make it anyyyyyyy easier

Abstinence is something one needs to come to terms with rather than it being forced down our necks.

As long as you'd screw the person drunk or sober and you feel like you have some kind of connection to them... Sex is Sex.

 

Offline iamzack

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
I know personally a number of people who don't have sex. It's not because they are religious or because of abstinence-only education. They are just uninterested in having sex right now.

So drop the "horny teenager" stereotype.
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Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Abstinence Only doesn't work because while it may have some effect on the average age at which people start having sex it means that once they do, they have very little clue on how to prevent pregnancies or STIs or of the ramifications of either.

The end result is an increase in unwanted pregnancies and STIs.

^^^THIS.
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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
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Abstinence only ISN'T sex-ed

True.
But it's also the only 100%, foolproof way of avoiding STD's

Unless you get into a fistfight with someone who has AIDS, or something.

  

Offline TrashMan

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
People who don't remember what being a teenager was like for the most part.

Or people who have more control over their hormons than most. Mind over matter.
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Offline Flipside

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
But 99% of the population WILL act on the impulses programmed into them, that's why the Church is so hot on abstinence, nothing fills the confession boxes like an unachievable goal.

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Or people who have more control over their hormons than most. Mind over matter.

So if they know that they have more control over their hormones than most why are they insisting that everyone else can have the same amount of control?

Besides, it could be that they simply have less hormones to start with and the belief they have more control is just that.
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Offline iamzack

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
On the other hand, if you are responsible enough not to get pregnant when you don't want to or get a disease, you shouldn't *have* to control your hormones so much. If you want to have sex, go find someone who also wants to have sex. If you regret it later, that's unfortunate. But people regret a lot of things, so no biggie.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Abstinence Only doesn't work because while it may have some effect on the average age at which people start having sex it means that once they do, they have very little clue on how to prevent pregnancies or STIs or of the ramifications of either.

The end result is an increase in unwanted pregnancies and STIs.

^^^THIS.

Seconded once more. Hope Trashman reads in depth.

 

Offline blackhole

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
This is about birth control pills but its still got a similar point.

Quote from: Better Days (Webcomic)
Lucy: Aren't these like giving me permission to have sex?
Mom: When's the last time you asked me permission to do something stupid?
Lucy: Oh.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
Seconded once more. Hope Trashman reads in depth.

Mayhaps you should re-read my posts.
I never did say anything against SexEd....
Nobody dies as a virgin - the life ****s us all!

You're a wrongularity from which no right can escape!

 

Offline Rick James

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Re: How screwed up are our rules. . .
This is about birth control pills but its still got a similar point.

Quote from: Better Days (Webcomic)
Lucy: Aren't these like giving me permission to have sex?
Mom: When's the last time you asked me permission to do something stupid?
Lucy: Oh.

Oh HELL no. You did not just reference Better Days...x_X

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