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Offline Blue Lion

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Something that forces people out of a place is violence. O.K. ?

No, because it has to be due to pain.

If I remove you from a place but I don't hurt you, it's not violence.

 

Offline peterv

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Pain is included (according to the article and to what three of our friends here stated).

And if you remove me from a place against my will is violence. But i guess that we will not agree on this, will we?
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 12:03:55 am by peterv »

 

Offline BloodEagle

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Pain is included (according to the article and to what three of our friends here stated).

Because the very people the device is used against aren't biased?

 

Offline Nuclear1

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Ok, for the record: This is the sound.

Annoying?
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Ok, for the record: This is the sound.

Annoying?

It reminds me of this rap "song" someone was playing the other day.[/joke]

And yes, while not causing the sensation of pain, that sound is annoying as all Hell. Mainly because my ears are ringing... loudly.

 

Offline TrashMan

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"Lack of decency, culture and respect" is a brand of meaningless horse**** in the same general family as "the world is ****ed" and "Hooters actually has really good wings." It's just something people say because it gets said so much that everyone forgets it's just vapid sophistry. Young people are an easy object of scorn for anyone who seeks the intoxicating sense of superiority that comes from hating something, so no one complains when society gets its panties in a bunch about the young people and their degenerate behavior.

Actually, it's not.

One can see and feel the difference and changes.
When I was a kid, the very thought of lifting my hand against my parents never even dared cross my mind. I always treated elderly people with full respect. I never loitered, I never got drunk, I never destroyed or damaged anything that didn't belong to me, I never leeched money out of my folks.

I can SEE the new generations acting progressively worse. It's no illusion.

You can close your eyes and pretend it's not happening. Don't want to shatter your illusion of a pretty world. Because - you know - that if we acknowledge that it is happening, then all the irresponsible parents that failed miserably will actually have to take some responsibiltiy for the terrible way they brought up their kids. And we wouldn't want that, now would we?  :rolleyes:
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EDIT:

Speaking of which, I'm slowly changing my mind about this. It doesn't look like  the device was even properly tested at all, or the effect on the larger enviroment considered.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 05:33:58 am by TrashMan »
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Offline iamzack

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Ok, for the record: This is the sound.

Annoying?

If I heard that sound for more than a few seconds, I would probably cry. Or start punching things.

Also, Trashman: just shut up. Seriously, people have been complaining about "kids these days" since before your religion even existed.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline Ghostavo

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Ok, for the record: This is the sound.

Annoying?

Actually, that's the version that can be heard by everybody, it's at 8KHz. The version that can supposedly can only be heard by people under 25 is the one I posted earlier at 17.4KHz, which is a much higher pitch.

Also, remember that the devices operate at 85dB, just below "lawnmower loudness".
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 08:48:03 am by Ghostavo »
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Offline iamzack

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CHRIST. The higher one is even worse. My ears are still ringing.

"Prolonged exposure to any noise at or above 85 decibels can cause gradual hearing loss."
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 09:05:15 am by iamzack »
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Offline TrashMan

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Also, Trashman: just shut up. Seriously, people have been complaining about "kids these days" since before your religion even existed.

I won't shut up and you can't make me.
Someone can cry wolf, but eventually, the wolf will come.
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Offline Ghostavo

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Also, Trashman: just shut up. Seriously, people have been complaining about "kids these days" since before your religion even existed.

I won't shut up and you can't make me.
Someone can cry wolf, but eventually, the wolf will come.

Translation:
"Get off my lawn!"   ;)
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Offline Liberator

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Just so we keep things clear:

A shop owner or group of shop owners has decided that they do not desire medium to large groups of teenagers loitering outside they're privately owned places of business.

Miriam-Webster defines loiter as "to remain in an area for no obvious reason"

Now while the groups that are in the article may be harmless, and within they're rights to gather peaceably, the shop owners right to control who they allow onto they're property supersedes the groups right to gather where they will.

I don't understand the hubbub. They're not doing anything to the teenagers that would specificly injure or harm them.  There's no attack dogs or water cannons or uniformed officers doing any kind of hassling.  Besides, I doubt this systems is inexpensive, so this has been an ongoing problem that neither the shop owners or the police has been able to stop apparently.  So they owners are simply upping the ante so to speak.
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Offline Ghostavo

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Read the article and perhaps you'll understand it.

The noise is being generated outside their properties into the street. One of the devices is even said to be in the freaking courtyard.
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Offline iamzack

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They're not doing anything to the teenagers that would specificly injure or harm them.

Clearly you can't hear that noise.
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Offline Aardwolf

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Not all people under age 25 are not potential customers.
Not all people under age 25 are up to no good.

and the kicker:

Not all people under age 25 are teenagers.



As for whether it's harmful, consider what it's like walking past a running gas lawnmower on a sidewalk. It's loud. It hurts. And if you try to tell the guy to turn the damn thing off, you're going to just end up standing there yelling at him and exposing yourself to the sound longer than you would if you walked past.

As for TrashMan: have you ever watched 12 Angry Men? You know which character you sound like, right?

  

Offline peterv

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However, the most  important issue here is not whether the mosquito causes pain or not. It is that it's forcing specific people (those under 25) away from public places. It is a matter of freedom.

It's about something Benjamin Franklin said along ago:
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither".

This is the point. If they could find a mosquito that would force young people away from public places with out pain, it wouldn't change a thing from the human rights point of view.

 

Offline TrashMan

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As for TrashMan: have you ever watched 12 Angry Men? You know which character you sound like, right?

No. Didn't watch and I don't care to either.
I know very well what I see and hear.
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Offline Turambar

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Yep, TrashMan definitely hates freedom.  He should move to Iran, I think he'd like it better there.
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Offline McMad

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That sound is terrible. Anybody claiming it is merely "annoying" can not hear it properly. And you're saying the real deal is as loud as a lawnmower? How is that any different than the shop owner running out his shop and hitting me on the skull with a mallet?

 

Offline TrashMan

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Yep, TrashMan definitely hates freedom.  He should move to Iran, I think he'd like it better there.

I recall liking you... What ever was I thinking? :wtf:
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