[High Max]

High Max, you need to avoid ad hominem attacks or you'll be monkeyed.

I was only being that way because he was insulting me first, but I will let it go. Calling me kindergarden and borderline retarded over a disagreement is flaming me. But I will let it go and leave the debate now to not escalate it.

[colecampbell666]

So does the Sun still revolve around the Earth? No. We thought it did before, but now we've learned that it isn't true. What's to say that we can't explain the unexplainable now?

[iamzack]

Seriously, High Max, can you enter into a discussion WITHOUT namecalling? We're all adults here (except Hades, who is 12). He didn't actually call you any names. He called your conclusion stupid, and he insulted your intelligence. It's not exactly right either, but it's blackhole. You're the one who constantly claims to be mature, rational, etc.

I believe in souls, afterlife, etc, but I'm not religious. There's such a huge difference. I don't disregard logic where it can be found. When I believe something without any proof it's more of my way of making sense of my world, rather than trying to... iunno... do whatever it is religious people do. XP

So does the Sun still revolve around the Earth? No. We thought it did before, but now we've learned that it isn't true. What's to say that we can't explain the unexplainable now?

Ya, srsly. If we discover something that contradicts what I think, then I go like "oh, huh, that's interesting." That doesn't usually happen, though, because I don't believe random crap like "intelligent design" or zombies.

[High Max]

I also am not religious but I like to believe in an afterlife. Does that make it idiotic? No. But when someone refers to me as border-line retarded, I take great offense to that for reasons stated a few weeks ago. Also assuming I'm religious just because of certain morals I have. I just mix certain beliefs and religious possibilities with science. But I do love to learn a lot about science. I just know that if I continue to post in this topic, it might lead to escalation and stress for me and might get me monkeyed, and it would be adult of me to try not to escalate it anymore and draw the line here.

I was honestly reacting from taking offense, but I did it without bad words or using the words "idiotic, delusional, kindergartner, and borderline retarded" in my post. Also, I wasn't aware of his age. I assumed he was in his 20's and forget what his age was since I last checked his profile. I can handle people calling me names, but basically saying I'm stupid or retarded using those kinds of words really angers me because it is the same as calling me stupid indirectly and also because of my past experiences and diagnoses, but I will try and let it go now. But I felt myself losing it that time and my heart started to race, though I didn't show it too much in my post.

[iamzack]

Lol, didn't show it too much in your post? Are you kidding?

You've called me various derogatory things as well. Also, Blackhole isn't 12, Hades is. I was making a joke that Hades prolly won't even see.

You have religious-type morals. In that they have little basis and are all puritanical and stuff. That you are religious is a very logical conclusion.

[blackhole]

I'm laughing so hard right now. I can't believe iamzack is coming to my defense (I'm 18, not 20, or 12)

I apologize for insulting your intelligence, but as you have so politely observed, I'm getting a little pissed off. Why am I getting a little pissed off? Well one reason being that I'm always pissed off, but the more relevant issue here is that you people claim to be rational and mature and then prove yourselves to be a complete and utter hypocrites. I don't bother calling myself mature because I view "acting mature" as just another way for people to assert themselves as better then someone else over ridiculously hollow ideals. Seriously, I'm more polite then you, therefore I'm a better person? What the hell does that have to do with anything? Congratulations, you have better social skills then me. I don't really give a crap, so if you're going to go calling me a baby and then say you're trying to be mature, just give up with the whole mature thing because neither of us are doing a particularly good job of it.

Either way, I don't care if you like science. You still hold ideals that are illogical, and I'm telling you that they are illogical and the only evidence you have for them is things that are unexplainable, which isn't evidence for anything! I mean, I believed that stuff when I was NINE. Are you NINE, High Max? Considering you just gave us a lecture on maturity, I think not, so perhaps we can avoid using meaningless crap as evidence to support your hypothesis?

[Scotty]

And, hey, while we're at it, can we actually get back on topic?  I'm content to lurk on this one, but at least keep it interesting, not stupid.

EDIT:  Damn tupos typos.

[blackhole]

And, hey, while we're at it, can we actually get back on topic?  I'm content to lurk on this one, but at least keep in interesting, not stupid.

I'm trying!

[Knight Templar]

I don't know about you guys, but I feel pretty special.

[General Battuta]

Me too!

We can unlock this if the more experienced moderators decide a lock is unwarranted, but I think it's gone a bit far into personal territory.

[karajorma]

I agree with the lock but raise you a week off for High Max. He's dragged far too many topics off course by posting a rambling rant about how he's mature and everyone else is immoral to keep getting away with it.

Plus he said yesterday on this very thread that he wanted the admins to be tougher.

[karajorma]

Deleting responses makes it much harder to follow a thread and can result in people drawing the idea that they were being responded to instead of the person whose message was deleted. It's not something to be undertaken lightly and it draws accusations of censorship whenever an admin does it. We also feel that everyone should be able to whatever a person did that was stupid enough to get a thread closed/themselves monkeyed.

So the posts deleted by High Max after he was monkeyed have been restored. If they are deleted again the length of the monkeying will be doubled.