[Knight Templar]

Where do you live dude, because I live in America, where we separate the Churches (<--- that way) and the State. (----> that way)

That argument ends right there.

So what? There's also a huge pyramid with an eye on top of it on the $1. I don't see very many of those around here. When being sworn into commissioning or office, you can even choose to affirm (rather than swear [under God]) your allegiance. Saying that what's printed on currency equals state policy, when governing documents state otherwise is kind of ridiculous.


Sushi: Thanks for the background on Mormons. 

[colecampbell666]

And while the principle of same-sex marriage does not harm me personally or affect my ability to marry someone of the opposite gender, I do view it as harming those thousands of years of societal precedence, if for no other reason than its complete disregard for said precedence.  When someone gets in my face and screams, "We're doing it this way now, just because," while ignoring why it has been done a certain way for so long, my reaction tends to be to yell, "No," just as loudly back at them.

That's absurd. They're not promoting gay marriage just for ****s and giggles or "because", they're doing it to improve on people's quality of life, while at the same time not infringing on yours. Who gives a **** about precedence. What if everyone was like "2+2=5" and one day I come along and I'm like "No, sorry, I've done research and I've found that it's 4. My study is peer-reviewed.", and they say "Nope, sorry. We can't change because we've been doing it this way for 3000 years.". Why not change? Why should we care about precedence, what do we gain from sticking to old and outmoded views when they infringe on the constitutional rights of others, while the change would not affect us in the least?

EDIT: As KT said, another example. Black slavery. "Oh, well it's been done that way for years, so we really shouldn't change. We don't have any reason not to change, but you know, precedence man."

[BlackDove]

Where do you live dude, because I live in America, where we separate the Churches (<--- that way) and the State. (----> that way)

That argument ends right there.

So what? There's also a huge pyramid with an eye on top of it on the $1. I don't see very many of those around here. When being sworn into commissioning or office, you can even choose to affirm (rather than swear [under God]) your allegiance. Saying that what's printed on currency equals state policy, when governing documents state otherwise is kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, I mean, the **** printed on the money everyone is expected by the law of the land to dedicate their lives to? Has no meaning whatsoever. They just painted some **** on there, so it looks pretty. Might as well have been a rodeo clown, doesn't mean anything.

[Knight Templar]

Where do you live dude, because I live in America, where we separate the Churches (<--- that way) and the State. (----> that way)

That argument ends right there.

So what? There's also a huge pyramid with an eye on top of it on the $1. I don't see very many of those around here. When being sworn into commissioning or office, you can even choose to affirm (rather than swear [under God]) your allegiance. Saying that what's printed on currency equals state policy, when governing documents state otherwise is kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, I mean, the **** printed on the money everyone is expected by the law of the land to dedicate their lives to? Has no meaning whatsoever. They just painted some **** on there, so it looks pretty. Might as well have been a rodeo clown, doesn't mean anything.

Right, neither does the Constitution apparently. It's just a cool, really old piece of paper written by some old guys a long time ago, right? Looks really tight in a museum and keeps Nicholas Cage's movie career alive, ya? I mean, you could pay attention to what it says if you want. But you don't really need to. More of a list of suggested guidelines rather than rules. You could just as well take it out and replace it with something more posh, like Machiavelli.

[BlackDove]

I think they settled that one in Money vs. Constitution.

Money won, by a landslide.

[Knight Templar]

So, remember High Max? He wanted me to post this for you guys since he got "monkeyed" - apparently meaning he can't post anymore(?). I thought it was pretty interesting, and seeing as he suffers is blessed with Asperger's which was brought up to be analogous in causation and sentiment to homosexuality by Mongoose, I thought he should be able to have his voice heard one last time.

"Being gay is like having Asperger's?" Where's High Max? He's the resident Aspie, right? We should get him in here and see how he feels about it.

First of all, I wonder if the majority of HLP members have lives or do they just waste time making silly topics on forums about things like "Oreo Cookies" though it was a little funny, and talking smack behind others' backs like children. You didn't have to use my member name "High Max" as an example and say "aspergers" when you and all people on the forum don't know the story, and I assure you that I'm not like the average person with so-called Aspergers.

I'm quite well off even for that so-called diagnoses. I like to keep busy, do side jobs, work out in the gym, and ride bike for exercise, besides reading and watching Ed programs. But the majority here seem nerdy and waste countless hours on the forum and don't care to have balance in life and improving themselves in all areas, therefore having a black and white pure physical modest nerdy point of view and can't accept the truth that no one knows all, they don't know it all, and no one knows for sure what happens when a person dies and if they have an afterlife. Instead the ysay things like "we are all just "goo" and there is no chance of an afterlife. People here always talk in absolutes like they think they know it all when the truth is no one knows.

Secondly, aspergers is not a lifestyle choice but homosexuality is in most cases. Of course it may also be an inbalance of testosterone and estrogen levels. However, what bothers me the most is the adoption of kids by homosexual couples because that can't have good psychological effects on the child and it isn't natural or fair for that child. Also, wouldn't Americans have to pay more taxes if gay marriage is legalized to support the cause?

Judging by the way you talked in that topic, I assume you are gay (using the word "we"), but I have no problem with them as long as they are friendly and not mean or tried anything on me. Of course any person who is not friendly to me and is mean to me, lies to me, or says they care or love me but treats me like I'm unimportant to them, makes me angry. Doesn't matter who they are.

It never ceases to amaze me the pointless and odd topics that are created on HLP. Looks like at least a couple of others were monkeyed too, including iamzack. At least now I know that mods and admins aren't playing favorites and disliking anyone who is non-athiest or has any conservative values. I was beginning to think that if someone on this board has any spirituality or conservative values or believes in the likely possibility that there is more than just the physical world, or if a member is not a pure liberal and doesn't think that spirituality is impossible and his mind doesn't accept only pure science and nothing else, like many close minded members on this board seem to think and do (only believing in science and everything else is impossible; thinking like Spock or a robot), then that makes the chances of him getting monkeyed much more likely over an atheist who was to commit the same offense, since the admins seemed to play favorites. But thankfully I seem to be wrong about admins playing favorites.

Oh yeah, and I have been online on HLP sometimes. I just changed my setting to invisible on HLP so others can't see my status or what topic I'm on, but can still see when I was last online by going in my profile, though I'm set to be signed in forever.

Even if my monkeying gets removed, I don't want to be active with posts much at all, if at all, or waste time with too many posts since I'm tired of the people here and the way they talk and insult anyone who isn't an atheist fanatic or close minded like a religious person or atheist. People here bigot all the time but whine about being bigotted towrds. It's good to be a bigot about certain things however. Have balance and stand up for your way of thinking. But many people here are being hypocrite and can't take a taste of their own medicine or practice what they preach.

So I thought it to be funny to delete my posts to screw up their topics and rid my history on this forum as much as possible and also make it look like they were replying to each other and didn't make sense. I got a laugh out of that. Plus, since I'm not appreciated here, I don't want others to have my advice and I want it removed. I know about the weekly backup and assumed it was there to backup the forum, but deleting my posts was addictive and I had a hard time making it less noticeable by only deleting a few at a time. I also should have timed it right before Thurday, when the weekly backup seems to takes place, so my posts couldn't have been restored. I'm not stupid.

I had a little trouble understanding at first, but I think I got the jist after a couple times reading it. To translate:

- He isn't sure if HLP users have lives.

- He does a lot of things, despite having Asperger's syndrome ( ) unlike a lot of HLP posters apparently (  ), which explains why we posters always speak in absolutes.

- You can't choose to be an Aspie, but you can choose to be a homosexual! Or maybe you can't. However, homosexual adoption is clearly terrible, right? It'll also increase your taxes, right?! (lolwut)

- I'm probably gay, by the way I talk (fair enough.) But he's cool with it as long as I'm not mean, don't hit on him, or tell him I love him before leaving him. (Don't worry bro, I'm never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.)

- Admins don't like anyone who isn't a liberal robot who thinks we all turn into goo upon death. Except for Zack. Apparently the administration seemed to be one way, but weren't really. Good to know.

- He's always signed in, even if you can't see him. Like God.

- He's tired of being persecuted because he's not closed minded like a religious person but also not an atheist fanatic. It's also good to be a bigot though. Stand up for yourself and be a bigot.

- Deleting your posts is funny, especially when you give really good advice. tee hee. He's not stupid though, he knows the server is trying to keep him from deleting his advice. So he's being very sneaky.

[Scotty]

- Admins don't like anyone who isn't a liberal robot who thinks we all turn into goo upon death. Except for Zack. Apparently the administration seemed to be one way, but weren't really. Good to know.

Sorry, wrong.  He says that "At least now I know that mods and admins aren't playing favorites..."

[chief1983]

God, I swear, every time I read a thread in GD, I get more stupid.

[General Battuta]

He doesn't seem to realize that all his posts just go to the Recycler where we can read them all we want and restore them if we like.

[Scotty]

How long was he monkeyed for, anyway?

[Knight Templar]

- Admins don't like anyone who isn't a liberal robot who thinks we all turn into goo upon death. Except for Zack. Apparently the administration seemed to be one way, but weren't really. Good to know.

Sorry, wrong.  He says that "At least now I know that mods and admins aren't playing favorites..."

My bad. Appears my translating skills aren't quite up to par.

[Ford Prefect]

Internet-- serious business.

[BlackDove]

God, I swear, every time I read a thread in GD, I get more stupid.

What, you were expecting something else? I come here to feel better about myself. It's so totally fulfilling.

[karajorma]

Sorry, wrong.  He says that "At least now I know that mods and admins aren't playing favorites..."

We aren't.

Well unless you call discrimination against utter stupidity playing favourites.

And I find the claim that the admins around here pick only on the religious hilarious cause I run most of my decisions past Goober and get told I should have been harsher about as often as I get told to be more lenient.

[McCall]

For those who feel like they are getting picked on:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/

[iamzack]

Oh, huh, forgot about this thread.

Ehhh... why not?

First of all, I wonder if the majority of HLP members have lives or do they just waste time making silly topics on forums about things like "Oreo Cookies" though it was a little funny, and talking smack behind others' backs like children. You didn't have to use my member name "High Max" as an example and say "aspergers" when you and all people on the forum don't know the story, and I assure you that I'm not like the average person with so-called Aspergers.

I'm quite well off even for that so-called diagnoses. I like to keep busy, do side jobs, work out in the gym, and ride bike for exercise, besides reading and watching Ed programs.

Nobody gives a damn that you have asperger's. Shut up about it already.

Secondly, aspergers is not a lifestyle choice but homosexuality is in most cases.

WRONG-O! You don't pick who you are attracted to.

However, what bothers me the most is the adoption of kids by homosexual couples because that can't have good psychological effects on the child and it isn't natural or fair for that child.

Uhhmmm... two dads > no parents at all

This "it's not natural" business is bull****. Must I bring up the gay penguins that adopted an orphaned chick and raised it just fine?

Also, wouldn't Americans have to pay more taxes if gay marriage is legalized to support the cause?

No.

Judging by the way you talked in that topic, I assume you are gay (using the word "we"), but I have no problem with them as long as they are friendly and not mean or tried anything on me. Of course any person who is not friendly to me and is mean to me, lies to me, or says they care or love me but treats me like I'm unimportant to them, makes me angry. Doesn't matter who they are.

So... you have the same standards for gays as hetero folk? Good to know. By the way, I have no problem with blacks as long as they don't mug me.

*snip* (the rest of it)

Agh, nevermind. Like 75% of the post is inane ramblings about how great he is.

[High Max]

Off topic but a response to the PM from iamzack:

First, I knew you had a religion (you claimed to), I didn't forget, but I was mainly refering to most of the others.

Secondly, I thought that it was an HLP joke about Turambur being your boyfriend. It is hard to know what are jokes and what aren't in HLP.

Third, I was just very angry last night about other things and also angry at your mean comments in this thread, so if I seemed immature, that was why.

Fourth, sometimes I act over confident but sometimes I feel like I'm not important, but I try to improve myself when many people don't. I know I'm only one person with little importance. I only talked big because I was angry. I actually lacked a lot of confidence until a few years ago.

Fifth: I didn't know I was unmonkeyed because it didn't have the reply button appearing in the threads. But now I won't post much and I will be quiet to avoid stress and save time.

Also, the truth is that lately, I'm quite scared of death and worry about the possibility that I have no afterlife. I am trying to look up research so I can have some comfort. I won't lie. I keep my mind open to pretty much any possibility. All I can do is hope I have one, continue living as long as I can on Earth, I look at the little evidence that it is likely there is one.

[iamzack]

Why respond to a PM in a public channel?

[Turambar]

Also, the truth is that lately, I'm quite scared of death and worry about the possibility that I have no afterlife. I am trying to look up research so I can have some comfort. I won't lie. I keep my mind open to pretty much any possibility. All I can do is hope I have one, continue living as long as I can on Earth, I look at the little evidence that it is likely there is one.

How about you just make the best of the time you know you have, and if there happens to be something after, it's a bonus.

[High Max]

Why respond to a PM in a public channel?

Because I was unmonkeyed. I wonder if Trashman will be unmonkeyed soon. If he isn't, he may not make another chapter of FoW. But I should stop so I don't go off topic more.