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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
The original Orion's nameplate is a single layered texture.
All other nameplates are a texture over top of the base texture.
And yes, it is possible to just add turrets. That's how I got the extra turrets onto the NTD Tyrant.
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It's not possible without exporting the model and re-importing it.  Or is it?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
I think I know a way around it.

Instead of a transparent nameplate, try using a regular Orion nameplate (the one with the blue panneling background). Without transparency, there shouldn't be a problem and it should still look good.
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If it becomes a regular problem, I'll file a bug report on Mantis.

IIRC, this could be a z-fighting or a transparency problem. I recall it used to work OK before but not in the several latest builds. Could be a FSO thing.
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I tried the "blank blue nameplate" idea, which did not work--the nameplate does not match the area around it, it has a border not fitting (because the logo is squashed slightly anyway, giving an odd effect).

Not only that, the flicker didn't go away.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
did you set the top one to "Invisible"?
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Could you please define what you mean by "setting the top one invisible".
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
You know, there are two textures overlayed.
One is the bottom texture, capital01-05, the orion nameplate texture.
The other one, the top texture, is usually the nameplate text.

In this case though, you should try setting 'capital01-05' to your TSD Eurylias texture, whatever it is, and the top one to 'invisible'.
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Ah, thanks.  I see what you're saying, but that would require that I give a table entry to every ship that is similar to the Eurysilas (there are 4 including the Eurysilas).
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
Can't you just use texture replacement in FRED?

 
 

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If you were to look back on the past few posts, you'd see we've been talking about texture replacement the whole time.  Doing so seems to cause a flicker.  Droid803 made a suggestion that I should just change the texture to my Eurysilas texture in the POF file for the Orion, but that would mean creating a table entry for every single ship that I would normally use texture replacement on.

I've been using texture replacement for the normal Orion nameplates (the Orion that isn't the one that Trashman made) and I haven't got the strange flicker effect--it only seems to affect Trashman's model.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
What's causing the flicker? I've never had problems with texture replacements...

 

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I know about as much as you do about it.  I think I'll just stick to the good ol' FS2 Orion for now.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
I did some testing. Flicker can be caused by not properly transparent background.

Strangely enough, mild flicker does seem to happen sometimes, under very specific angles. Is it that big of a issue?


I don't know what procedure you're using to make nameplates.
I open photoshop and name a 512x128 image, pure black background.
Then, in pure white I write the ship name with the Stop font. I try painting over it, so the layer with the name gets rasterized. Select all + copy, then create an alpha channel and paste into alpha.
Then I go back to the layers and make the texts a bit darker/smudgier and save.


EDIT: Here, try this nameplate. Just rename it to nameplate.dds and it will be used as a default.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Olympus Burning
Nah, I'll just stick to a really heavy table edit.

Anyway, these ships are on the blacklist to be removed from the mod:

SSG Trident
NTF Iceni
NTF Boadicea
SpaceHunk
SJD Sathanas
GTF Myrmidon

These ships could POSSIBLY be removed:

SF Mara (terrans)   -- Would possibly be replaced by another Terran-outfitted Shivan ship
GTD Orion#2(Bastion)


If there are any ships you guys would recommend removing from the retail ships, then by all means, let me know.
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Well, the Bastion's like...destroyed.
Why keep it around?
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Because it has a nameplate texture.
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...you can have any orion have a nameplate texture...
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Nah, I'll just stick to a really heavy table edit.

You know, there is a relatively easy way to MAKE it work...requires PCS2 and Truespace. Just make the nameplate a fixed fact on the surface, instead of floating above another texture.
It takes 5 minutes to do.
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