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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Yeah, to be honest, the only truly impressive thing about the game is the system requirements (and the resulting graphics.) There's gorgeous stuff in there, but it's hard to admire when the game itself can be so exasperating.

 

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Are you talking about the QX6800 as a 1000$ CPU? That's nearly 3 years old! Go with an i7 920 or 950, 270$ or 540$, depending on what you want to spend.

Like I said, I'm behind the times. I know about i7 but it didn't come to mind.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
I was refering to Stealth at that point.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Stealth

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
I was refering to Stealth at that point.
and i don't know why :/
i wasn't referring to that proc...

 

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
I thought you were by the "Not paying 1000$" comment.
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Offline Stealth

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not at all.

what i meant was that if i kept on going the same direction i was headed, the only way i could get a processor to match the insane specs of the graphics cards, hard drives, etc. would be spending over $1000 on a processor.

 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Yeah, well suck on my GeForce 6600GT. All 256mb's of it.

256 is higher than 2. I think we see who won here.

 

Offline Mikes

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It's just that... 2GB on a GTX 285 while the GTX 295 has 1.8GB...  What's the catch?

The GTX295 can only use 900mb due to the nature of dual GPU / SLI solutions.

So it effectively has less than half the memmory for applications to use than the 2gb card and even a bit less than a 1gb card.

As far as gaming is concerned 900mb is still plenty as well so it doesn't matter all that much.
But it's something to keep in mind when talking about future games or ultra high resolutions.

Stock GTX 285 = 1gb effective memmory.
The modifed GTX 285 in aboves post = 2gb effective memmory.
GTX 295 = 900mb effective memmory.

Same with SLI ... if you put 2x 1gb cards into SLI it doesn't mean applications can suddenly use 2gb video ram... nope LOL ;) 1gb it is... because of how SLI works.
Same with ATI crossfire of course too.

Effective (usable) video memmory = total video memmory / number of cores.

 

Offline Stealth

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
OK since i've changed and am going for a more reasonable build, so i can still afford to put headers and cutouts on one of the cars later this month, here's the motherboard and RAM combo that i'm going to be getting.

If one of you gearheads could scope it out and just make sure it looks good:

RAM:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4282847&csid=_25
board:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4484418&CatId=4070

Thanks :)

 

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Offline Tyrian

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Ok, I'm a late comer to the thread, but I just finished my own supercharged system, see here for specs. 

As for the hardware, I'd recommend the OCZ Gold in your second post.  I have it myself, and it screams.  Best of all, the specs say 1600 MHz, 8-8-8-24, stable at 1.65V, however, on my system it's stable at 1.5V.  Very cool stuff.

Processor-wise, go with the i7 920.  It has a slower QPI, but it's not noticeable.  It's also the most bang for your buck.  Plus, if you do decide to OC in the future, with a good cooler, you can hit 3.4GHz on air.

Another board you might want to take a look at is this one from EVGA.  They've been doing some interesting stuff lately.  One thing about that current board you have is that it's stock memory speeds top out at 1333 MHz.  To take full advantage of the OCZ Gold that runs at 1600 MHz, you'd be forced to OC.

The GTX 285 2GB is an awesome card.  I have the stock one myself.  I've heard some mixed reports about the stability of the superclocked version though.  I'd recommend the stock one, as it's a little cheaper and can be manually set to the superclocked version's speeds.  Also, the GTX 285 has on-board PhysX support, which means you might want to take a look at a motherboard that supports PhysX.  Look on EVGA's website; they just released a cheaper version of my motherboard, the E760 Classified, that has PhysX support.  PhysX is gaining support amongst mainstream games.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
or should i get 1600mhz ram instead:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4282839&csid=_25

You won't notice the difference in speed between lower and higher clocks, but you'll notice the price.
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Offline CP5670

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
The higher speed memory is for overclocking the processor. It's only useful if you want to do that.

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Also, the GTX 285 has on-board PhysX support, which means you might want to take a look at a motherboard that supports PhysX.  Look on EVGA's website; they just released a cheaper version of my motherboard, the E760 Classified, that has PhysX support.  PhysX is gaining support amongst mainstream games.

You don't need any specific motherboard for PhysX as long as you have an appropriate video card.

PhysX has been a no-show so far though. I still have yet to see a game that actually does something noticeable with it without having a huge framerate hit.

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
And most newer (9XXX plus) nVidia cards already have PhysX, IIRC.
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Offline Stealth

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
sent the 285s back, didn't even open the box.

Means i'm now in the market for a video card.

Radeon 4890, or Geforce GTX275... what think.

 

Offline Fury

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Radeon 4890

 

Offline Bob-san

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
Radeon 4890
Tri-fire'd 4890's would work. What do you have already? EVGA or Asus for X58 boards, an i7 920 ofc, 6-12GB DDR3 1600, maybe a solid state drive or two for OS? A few terabytes for storage. You can use a Corsair 850TX (or 850HX, if you want modular). Asus P6T6 WS or P6T7 WS motherboard would work well.
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Offline Stealth

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
here's what i have already...

- EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR and
- ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
(yes i know i have two boards, and i can use either one at this point)

- Corsair XMS3 Tri Channel 6GB PC10666 DDR3 Memory (1600mhz)
- WD VelociRaptor 300GB Hard Drive WD3000HLFS
- WD Caviar Black 1TB drive
- Kingwin Mach 1 Modular Power Supply - 800-Watt
- Intel Core i7 920 Processor BX80601920 - 2.66GHz
- Thermaltake VH8000BWS Armor+ MX ATX Mid-Tower Case
- Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI Sound Card

 

Offline Bob-san

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
How about three
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103076
HD4890 1GB's (OC'd to 925MHz core)
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Offline Stealth

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Re: Building a computer - yes, better than yours :)
naaa i don't want to do more than 2 video cards right now.  but i'd like to do 3 in the future.

for some reason i really like the 4890 XXX edition.  i think two of those would rape.

also i'm REALLY liking this board for some reason
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4633206&CatId=4070