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Offline Dragon

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Not a MechWarrior vet, aren't you? Or a BT vet for that matter, some of them (looking at you, "Catapult") have literally nothing in common with the original artwork. They simply don't look right. Atlas is nice and Awesome looks decent, but for other stuff...

 
That's because the original artwork is in many cases absolute garbage.  Have you seen the TRO artwork for designs like the Orion and Stalker?  The MWO art team has done an excellent job of making modern, high-definition BattleMech designs.
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WTF Dragon.  If MWO did one thing right, it was doing a stunning job modernising 80s mech designs.  They're all miles better than the TRO art, without exception.

And I am a MW vet, so don't think you can hide behind "oh you just don't get it, you're new".

 

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Not a MechWarrior vet, aren't you? Or a BT vet for that matter, some of them (looking at you, "Catapult") have literally nothing in common with the original artwork. They simply don't look right. Atlas is nice and Awesome looks decent, but for other stuff...
I am, actually. Not that it'd actually matter since it's irrelevant. I'd echo what Sparda and Aesaar said but since they're right there's no point.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
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Offline NGTM-1R

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This "Thunder Bolt" (it's "Thunderbolt" everywhere else, BTW) is just a mislabeled Summoner

Not a MechWarrior vet, aren't you?

The fact you were able to compose these lines in consecutive posts tells me a great deal about your own credentials as a long-time fan. (The resemblance between the two designs has always been intentional.) Now get out before I'm tempted to throw my first edition copy of Lost Destiny at you as a method of showing who actually knows and loves this universe.

(And what the hell is with your recent swing into trolling negativity, man? You used to be helpful, now you're just looking for every possible excuse to be offensive.)
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Yep. Sure looks nothing alike.
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Offline Polpolion

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Not a MechWarrior vet, aren't you? Or a BT vet for that matter, some of them (looking at you, "Catapult") have literally nothing in common with the original artwork. They simply don't look right. Atlas is nice and Awesome looks decent, but for other stuff...

I agree with Hades and co here. The original artwork in plenty of cases is just plain silly (just look at the protomech art). I honestly have no idea why you seem to have trouble recognizing what mech is what. The only interpretation I'm even close to not liking is their Centurion.

 

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to be honest, i'd like the nose on the cat to be a bit rounder, but other than that? its a cat alright.

as a side note, whilst the mad cat (timber wolf) is a given when the clans show up, i'd love to see the vulture (mad dog) (why? running away and shooting them in the face was always so fun with it, altough granted, its the worst possible way to use a vulture :p ) and behemoth (stone rhino) too.

behemoth especially.
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fwiw, I love the look of the new catapult. I've played MW since MW2, and in every game that the cat appeared in, I would be too embarrassed to drive it. And looking at the centurion on sarna, I love the new one so much better.

Man, I gotta play this more.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I am curious how they'll do the the Omnis, though. The original ones all looked like a set of kitbashes using similar parts, and that made sense considering they were standardized, modular designs. I'd kind of like to see that again, but I don't think it'll happen that way.
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Offline Dragon

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Yep. Sure looks nothing alike.

Depends on which artwork you're using, the MWO CAT is way too boxy for my liking. In general, I prefer the classic, smoother look.

Also, while Thunderbolt does resemble the Summoner, it's not identical:

 

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What? MWO's Catapult still resembles the one you used. And LOADS better too! Your argument still doesn't make sense since you said it looked nothing like the original. The E already proved you wrong there. And if you think the one that The E posted and yours is different, the lack of consistency would be yet another reason to not use the original art.

And your argument about the Thunderbolt makes even less sense. The MWO's Thunderbolt looks pretty much like that picture you posted. I guess you're saying that they're doing an excellent job with the designs?

 

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Dragon, the thing is, especially in the CAT's case, the silhouettes are pretty much identical. Bird legs, bullet-shaped main body, missile pods on the shoulders, no arms. That's a CAT for ya. The fact that the MWO one had someone who sat down and worked on the thing from an industrial designer's perspective makes the MWO one arguably better, as the design now makes much more sense.

You said "these designs have literally nothing in common". As these pictures show, they actually do. It's almost like saying that the retail Typhon and the ragingloli Typhon "have literally nothing in common".
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Offline Hades

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You said "these designs have literally nothing in common". As these pictures show, they actually do. It's almost like saying that the retail Typhon and the ragingloli Typhon "have literally nothing in common".
I'd not be surprised if he said it didn't because it was uvmapped instead of tiled. I can't comprehend why, but Dragon has some sort of insane dislike of modernization.
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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Al-Rik

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This is a Thunderbolt:  ;)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:3025_thunderbolt.jpg

But because FASA had some troubles with getting the Licenses this design can't be used anymore.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

 

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So if they're including a Thunderbolt, when do we get the Warhammer?
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So if they're including a Thunderbolt, when do we get the Warhammer?
or the Marauder. Cant have a Madcat without both a marauder and a catapult :p
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Offline NGTM-1R

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But because FASA had some troubles with getting the Licenses this design can't be used anymore.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

Not strictly true. The Dougram and Crusher Joe designs are actually free to use now, while the Macross ones remain verboten because Harmony Gold is literally copyright Hitler.

The ones in the Phoenix pack that have been revealed to us? They're all Dougram or Crusher Joe designs. This is not a coincidence, I'm guessing.
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Offline Dragon

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You said "these designs have literally nothing in common". As these pictures show, they actually do. It's almost like saying that the retail Typhon and the ragingloli Typhon "have literally nothing in common".
I'd not be surprised if he said it didn't because it was uvmapped instead of tiled. I can't comprehend why, but Dragon has some sort of insane dislike of modernization.
Well, OK, I admit I was mistaken here. I was mostly used to MW4 interpretation for the CAT (which I still simply like better), which looks very different. I actually preferred the almost comically oversized missile pods to the small ones. Gave it a clumsy, overspecialized look, which is exactly how a CAT handles. Besides, it's not like it all matters, I got bored with MWO by now. I might return to it once there's something more interesting than two game modes and a handful of IS mechs. And I really dislike "grinding" for money, it just gets boring to do the same thing a thousand times over to get anything decent (not that there's anything else to do, even once you buy and outfit your own mech...).

Also, it's not modernization I dislike, it's that back in the day, I got most of my ships by reskinning existing ones, and I lacked the skill to edit UV maps. I don't like when an "update" starts limiting my customization options and makes changing things harder.

 

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I got back into MWO the other day after checking out this thread and seeing what was going on. I stopped playing around the time the Cataphract came out because I got bored.

So I've come back and the whole game now feels significantly tighter. Plus the addition of the Trebuchet and the Highlander since has made me quite happy (Anyone who's read the Battletech LP knows about my fanboy tendencies for the Trenchbucket).

So I got in a couple matches. First one was River City Night. I hate the River City map and I think it should go away so naturally I did poorly in my 2xAC/10 Cataphract and got pummelled. Next map, that new canyon one, with my Dual Large Laser Commando. THIS is better. Plenty of harrassing and ripping into big ol' Atlas backsides. Had a lot of fun.

So yeah, the game is improving after being a snooze-fest. Finally.
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