[Getter Robo G]

No problem Enloch.

If you look at the cover of the RL sourcebook it IS the Leviathan... At least I remember that much from the late 80's.

As for the colors you'd have to talk to MR about that.

I Dl'ed the mod and it has more, if not just as many polies, as the others. In fact the opposite applies, the textures are woefully basic for models of that amount. BUt they can be improved.

I do like the hangar "module" and was going to ask permission to use it.
I got some ideas for attaching a chain of them on a station or the sides of a cap ship or transport.

[Enioch]

What do you mean, the 'hangar module'?

Of the Ultor?

Of the 'Leviathan'?

BTW, in Renegade Legions all capital ships are called 'Leviathans'. It's another word for 'capital ship', not a name for a specific class. The cover of the rulebook is both right and wrong in that aspect (I can see why you got a bit confused): what it shows is a 'Leviathan' (as in capital ship), but not a 'Leviathan' (as in a ship class or a ship named 'Leviathan'). I believe it's a Shiva class Battleship.

Confusing?    Hope not. 

[starlord]

Enioch is absolutely right!

I made that mistake ages ago.

the leviathan you see of the board game of the same name is a shiva TOG battleship.

[Getter Robo G]

You're probably right...

I only remember having it in my hands, I know I flipped through it but I'm a blank...

Regardless, use as a "guide" model, or not at all, it's atill a possible resource...

I thought you guys were in collusion with the SS RL mod, that's why I almost didn't repost it there. (redundancy)...

So that means the module is either Brad's or Achilles's.

Over and out.

[Enioch]

Can't say I quite understand, but whatever the issue was, it seems to have gone away...

Her new butt. Check out the greebling in the main engine recess, as well as the new ventral fin.

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[starlord]

Superb amount of detail.

[Enioch]

THE ULTOR IS DONE!

Well, OK, the fighterbay is still just a cubic recess, but I'm gonna do it with a detail box, so for the moment I'm done.

Four images follow. Please mark the points you want me to put guns on. This is important. Do it. Please.

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[starlord]

Superb! (although might you possibly tell me how I can point out the bays on the image)?

As far as bay placement is concerned though, I would like to place them so they can have maximum angle coverage. However, I wouldn't like to place them on the wings, but most likely on the body of the ship. Anyone caring to discuss placement with me?

The spinal is always in the front, so no worries about that, neither for the anti fighter turrets. However, we also need to work out how the missile system will be arranged...

[Aardwolf]

So, what's the purpose of the wings? They might occasionally be able to block shots that might otherwise hit a bay, but along with that protection comes the blocking of a region from that bay's fire.

[starlord]

I quite agree, but data on that is more than sketchy, and I'm afraid I don't have an answer...
indeed, the wings might serve as fighter/small ship hosting, although 48 fighters is not much by any means for a battleship...

However, it's true that those winged designs (derfflinger, dochendal, etc...) are going to prove tricky as far as determining bay emplacement goes...

[Enioch]

@starlord:

 Download the pics. Open them in Photoshop (or in Paint). Grab a red brush for bays, a blue one for the missiles, a green one for the turrets and a yellow one for the spinal. Then paint a few dots on the image, where you want the whatever-weapon-it-is to be.

@Aardwolf:

So, what's the purpose of the wings?

Cargo space, fuel storage, crew quarters (they are very cramped in the RL universe. There is a certain class of ...destroyers, I think, that hadn't even bunks for the crewmen), sensors, communication arrays. Take your pick.

Waiting for your weapon placement suggestions

[starlord]

Ok, I believe I have suggestions as to where bay placements would be:

Feel free to comment.

Notes: the spinal mount would be slightly sticking out of the forward bow of the ship.
Also, the missile system would be one big amount of missile silos clustered together: they would release swarms of capships (similar to the ones in BSG, wish smart homing capability (homing on a hostile while avoiding friendlies) but slower, as those missiles would be pry to interceptor/turret fire.

As far as turrets are concerned, I'm not that sure yet as turrets can mount quite different fighter armaments, but as a battleship, the ultor has maximum coverage. I have a photo here determining what might look like a standard leviathan turrets: It appears to have 4 cannons and 1 hard point for fighter class missile weaponry. it's on page 7 of the leviathan rulebook (the small domes on the ship surface).

as to quarters, it's a good idea: I believe though that the carriers are the ones suffering from that most (the xerxes for one, but perhaps the destroyer class carriers even more). Indeed, how they squeeze 144 fighters and the host of small ships on the canis destroyer class carrier is beyond me...

feedback awaited...


Edit: while I think of it, I won't be here for the next 2 weeks, so I'll be off the boards for a while. i hope no one gets bothered by that.

Best regards.


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[The E]

Well, one non-useful comment would be that you should upload those images somewhere more permanent, like photobucket. Attachments get deleted whenever the space is needed, so those nice images will be gone in a few days.

[Enioch]

Let them.

All I wanted was the weapons placement. I'll upload a few finished images to imageshack later on, when I've got some turrets to show off.

Oh, and @starlord: That square 'grid' in the lower fin that you marked as a bay is supposed to be windows.  I'll put the bay lower down...

[starlord]

Windows are they? Well I figured out that bay placement here would be interesting due to angle coverage...

Also, can you discern between the 25 and 100 broadside bays? 25 are naturally the smallest broadsides...

Also, in leviathan, some bays are depisted as capable of shooting at interceptor squadrons at long range. Perhaps we can have the smallest bays rigged to occasionnally fire at approaching interceptors, though  when the range closens, this duty would be left to the turret systems.

as for turrets, you can also see the leviathan turrets I was referring to on the pegasus commonwhealth corvette (in interceptor, the first line of defense, at the end). The rear of the corvette mounts such a turret which i have described earlier (with 4 cannons and 1 harpoint). The TOG cingulum mounts another turret (with 3 cannons). Those 2 might be used along with varied fighter weaponry to serve as part of the leviathan turret system.

[Getter Robo G]

Starlord, since you are on both forums how about trying to coordinate data between the 2 mods?

Maybe achilles or Brad knows about weapon placement locations?

[starlord]

Well actually there are no canon documents as to where bay placement is.

However, should bradd have another theory on this...

I'm gonna take a while to answer though, as I'm leaving in 3 hours during 2 weeks...

[Aardwolf]

Heheh, I saw "in the RL universe" and was like... lol it's fiction? But then I was like OHHHH, he means "Renegade Legion"...

[Akalabeth Angel]

So, what's the purpose of the wings? They might occasionally be able to block shots that might otherwise hit a bay, but along with that protection comes the blocking of a region from that bay's fire.

Heat sinks.
There is no air in space so ships need large surfaces to dissipate waste heat.

[Colonol Dekker]

Is this from a series of books or what?