[SpardaSon21]

So C&C4 is like Ground Control/World in Conflict, just in the C&C universe and with cartoony units?  Why play C&C4 when its probably going to be way worse than GC/WiC?

[General Battuta]

Closer to Dawn of War 2, I think.

[SpardaSon21]

Okay, so it may be more similar to DoW2.  That's not exactly a point in its favor though, as DoW2 was a horrible sequel to DoW1, gutting DoW1's gameplay and replacing it with a dumbed-down version of CoH's gameplay, as well as Relic screwed up by pulling choices for commander units from their collective asses.  C&C4 looks to be be a gutting of traditional C&C gameplay, instead replacing it with a semi-tactical game that probably won't have armor facings or anything like that that would make it anything other than a rock-paper-scissors spam with moving and respawning bases.  And another area DoW2 has failed is the complete lack of mod tools or any support from Relic for modders.  EA's support for modders has been marginal at best, and chances are this iteration of C&C won't have any mod tools, since modders would probably gut their XP system, giving all units to everyone with no need to build up XP.

[General Battuta]

Um, I agree on all counts. No need to jump all over me.

[SpardaSon21]

Sorry.

[IceFire]

Something else I can't figure out.  The game looks ... worse than C&C3.  I thought C&C3 looked brilliant the moment I saw it.  The unit design was good, some of the changes were a bit backwards but that was ok and decently well explained in the fiction, and the overall look of the graphics was really good too.  You could tell what was what quickly, everything looked to be rendered in great detail, etc.  For some reason C&C4 looks blockier and the unit designs more outrageous and less well thought out (with a few exceptions).  Some bits are better but a lot looks worse in all of the videos I've seen.

I find it weird.

I also did quite like RA3's cartoony style but that worked well for that series and still looked detailed in the screen shots.  This... not so much.

I hate to say it but it looks a bit like they have a B team and they are working on this or they haven't been given enough time to make it look right.

[Stormkeeper]

The only reason I'll be buying C&C4 is for the mods that'll turn up eventually. And to complete my Tiberium collection.

[Colonol Dekker]

I'll bet that's what EA are counting on. Did hard fans like us who can see how bad it'll be but hate seeing a chalk outline on our box shelf where sequels should be.   

[Demitri]

I'll bet that's what EA are counting on. Did hard fans like us who can see how bad it'll be but hate seeing a chalk outline on our box shelf where sequels should be.   

Damn straight thats what they're hoping for but i'm having none of it. Guess i'll just need to wait til they release it and someone puts the story ending up on wikipedia or somesuch. Not exactly satisfying but i'm not buying this piece of crap.

[carbine7]

I'll bet that's what EA are counting on. Did hard fans like us who can see how bad it'll be but hate seeing a chalk outline on our box shelf where sequels should be.   

Second that one

[BengalTiger]

They also rely on a bunch of young l33t hax0rs, who when promised "Change" and "New Stuff" think it's a good thing and will buy the game (just like lots of people vote for anyone who promises the same things). I'm sure they'll even love the game simply for being different, even if more experienced players like us here think it totally lost it's $***.

[Droid803]

I'll bet that's what EA are counting on. Did hard fans like us who can see how bad it'll be but hate seeing a chalk outline on our box shelf where sequels should be.  

Second that one

You could be like me and pretend it doesn't exist.
The series will forever be unfinished!
I'm not missing anything!

[SpardaSon21]

Hurray for DisContinuity!

[BengalTiger]

Uh... guys?

http://www.commandandconquer.com/media/videos/tiberium-harvesting-video

And I must admit that he's right this time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFXJaYY0TOs

Edit: The second link may not be safe for work.

[Col. Fishguts]

Uh... guys?

http://www.commandandconquer.com/media/videos/tiberium-harvesting-video

The guy with the stupid hat makes me want to punch him through my monitor.

And I must admit that he's right this time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFXJaYY0TOs

Edit: The second link may not be safe for work.

I have to agree with Hitler on this one.... "I miss Westwood studios."

[Sarafan]

Uh... guys?

http://www.commandandconquer.com/media/videos/tiberium-harvesting-video

Crystal f***ing capture? Ok, tiberium is "under control" so I can get that but this isnt bloody Dawn of War!

[Scotty]

Holy crap, does everyone here get pissy about how they changed the game before a single one of them have played it?

[Sarafan]

Holy crap, does everyone here get pissy about how they changed the game before a single one of them have played it?

You're right, I'm so sorry about expressing my opinion over what the official video has show that will be in the game.

[Liberator]

After watching the video I am left with an extreme feeling of...blah.  Once again, they're sacrificing everything in the established universe for a little bit of nothing for the pvp.

[SpardaSon21]

Welcome to the genius of Electronic Arts!