[EtherShock]

Heck, you could probably FRED a mission where the worse a ship is damaged, the ickier the textures.

That sounds like a great idea. I've always hated how most games don't have this feature. If I remember correctly, there was this Mechwarrior rip-off called Gnome that had numerous 'damaged' models that popped up whenever you shot your enemy enough times.

@Brandx: I've no idea how this game will turn out just from seeing the gameplay vids, but the idea of a one-hit kill sim game kinda scares me. Its bold, too bold if you ask me. The only thing I can think of to counter this is to make the ships exceedingly difficult to fly and stir, feature jamming systems or anything to make gameplay harder. 

One direct hit, a non-critical hit shouldn't kill you in one shot. I believe that's how they'll get around this...maybe.

Wow, I'm constantly amazed by how fast some of you guys can make models and texture them.

[Alan Bolte]

Well, the best model of one-on-one fighter combat with minimal externalities we have is Slave 1 vs Obi-wan's Delta 7, and he definitely took more than a few hits, though there's no knowing whether the guns were doing full damage or were adjusted for greater rate of fire. By externalities I mean e.g. previous damage, especially hits to the shields, which would explain why many shielded craft appear to go down in one or two hits - we aren't seeing them go down until they've already been in combat a while. Even TIE fighters sometimes survive a hit, IIRC.

The A-wing length arguments are almost as old and beaten-to-death as the Executor and Eclipse arguments. I'm sure the team has considered the matter thoroughly.

As to Turambar's A-Wing, I am only familiar with this WIP, which does have a few accuracy issues, and looks comparatively rough around the edges. It's still a decent job, though.

I look forward to seeing the finished article, brandx0.

[Pred the Penguin]

Well, the best model of one-on-one fighter combat with minimal externalities we have is Slave 1 vs Obi-wan's Delta 7, and he definitely took more than a few hits, though there's no knowing whether the guns were doing full damage or were adjusted for greater rate of fire.

FotG isn't prequel...

But yes I think Slave 1 was going for quantity over quality on the lasers. They were used to coax the target into missile range.

Also, I don't think most prequel era fighters had energy shields.

[Thaeris]

I agree with you, Alan. However, after posting that statement on the previous page, I did a small amount of research to determine if what I had stated held any validity. I'm aware of the close-up shots showing the pilot inside, which I assume is what the team is using to determine scale, but check this image out (it's real, from RotJ): http://www.theforce.net/SWTC/Pix/given/rb/mc04.jpg

I blame LucasFilm for causing these problems because they did cause them. Seldom does one find ANY coherent images/drawings/models or anything else from the Star Wars films due to innumerable reasons. Clearly, the close-up model and distance models were different in scale. However, I have to grant that the 9-point-something meter length is viable due to the image above. I give it additional credence due to the fact that the A-Wings can be approximated in size because of other ships in the vicinity that we actually have an agreed length for.

Note that if the X-Wing is 12.5 meters in length, we can take a very rough scale estimate of the A-Wing's width in comparison (it's rough due to perspective distortion, etc.). We then note that the A-Wing is slightly wider than the X-Wing's bisected length, 6.25 meters. That rationalization makes the official width of 6.48 meters rather viable, actually. Since the length of the A-Wing is greater than the width, it makes a length of over 9 meters very likely.

As far as realisim goes, a larger fighter is better. This is not to say that the speed and maneuverability could not be attributed to a small mass with even limited engine output (which is rather viable)-but it just doesn't seem to fit into place with the grander scale of Star Wars to me. The A-Wing is supposed to be a long range fighter with powerful sensors, a hyperdrive, a full load of 12 concussion missiles, and comparatively big engines. Squeezing all of that into such a tiny frame is a bit ludicrous... of course, it is Star Wars...

-Thaeris

[swashmebuckle]

I agree with you, Alan. However, after posting that statement on the previous page, I did a small amount of research to determine if what I had stated held any validity. I'm aware of the close-up shots showing the pilot inside, which I assume is what the team is using to determine scale, but check this image out (it's real, from RotJ): http://www.theforce.net/SWTC/Pix/given/rb/mc04.jpg

Unfortunately we can't really use matte paintings for scale information as they tend to be more artistically than technically accurate   The really nice thing about fighters is that we do have images of the original movie models with pilots in them to help scale the things--it's cap ships that tend to be the problem regarding size issues, and that's where the lower level canon information and stuff from places like the SW Technical Commentaries can help to fill in the blanks.

[Thaeris]

Now that you mention it, you might be right... Those Rebels are employing giants in that hangar!

 

-Thaeris

[chief1983]

Yeah, to be honest I can't see one of those people in the painting fitting in the X-wing in that same painting.

[Thaeris]

Was a final determination on the size of the in-game A-Wing able to be made? I've been tempted to pull out RotJ to attempt some more scaling myself, but I just haven't found the time.

[chief1983]

It's gonna be small.

[aRaven]

I hope not that small

[MR_T3D]

I hope not that small

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!1

i can see the pilot fitting in one of them.
have you seen an F1 can IRL? it's REALLY small, i thougt it amazaing anyone bigger than a jockey can fit in.
FYI yes, an indvidual car is made to the driver's height, however they all appear the same size, and if jenson button can fit (and own ) in one, being over 6ft tall, why can't a 5'6 rebel pilot?

[brandx0]

My apologies for the lack of updates recently, work has had me very busy.

Anyways, a shot of the bottom now, still a WIP

[brandx0]

And another while I'm at it:

[StarSlayer]

noice

[Thaeris]

Beautiful as always. 

[Lt.Cannonfodder]

Hot.

[MR_T3D]

BrandX:
the stiptease of videogame modelling.


I mean it as a compliment, but still ancy for demo...

[brandx0]

And another update, only minor changes but it's in high res/quality now

[Mongoose]

Dammit, look at all of those gorgeous little normal-mapped details that I won't get to see until such time as I get a card that supports said maps.

[brandx0]

And now with assymetrical replaced panels