[Thaeris]

I would actually consider using the Myrmidon more if I could mount the Mekhu HL-7 instead of the Subach. I've never used the Myrm in a situation where I could mount it with the Kayser, so when I have used it, I've filled all banks with the Subach. By appropriately compensating for the height of the primary banks, the Myrmidon is actually a very good gunfighter. If the right banks are loaded with tempests, you're going to do a lot of damage. The biggest flaw of the Myrmidon in my opinion is that you can't carry Harpoons.

-Thaeris

[Scotty]

I hate the no Harpoons on a Myrm.  Those are my premier bomb killer.

And they're not to bad fighter to fighter, no matter what QuantumDelta says.

[Mongoose]

That tightly-grouped quad bank does pack a significant punch, even with the Subach, since you're probably going to hit your target with all four bolts if your aim is on.  As someone who normally doesn't put a whole lot of stock in secondaries, I've never had any major complaints flying it, though I do admit that having Harpoons as an option would be welcome.

[Thaeris]

Quad bank? Quad bank ONLY?

When I use the Myrmidon, I select the same cannon for all banks, then link all cannons to fire at once! This is why I like to use the Subach, as it does a fair amount of damage while having a good rate of fire. I'd much prefer the Mekhu in the Myrmidon, though, as with the higher ROF, this would compensate for the decrease thereof when all guns are set to fire. Not to mention the slightly greater range...

-Thaeris

[Androgeos Exeunt]

And the Myrmidon is 100% outclassed by the Perseus and arguably the Erinyes.

I must contest this.  The Myrm is only outclassed by about 50%.  Just ask QD about that

I prefer the Myrmidon to the Perseus simply because it turns slower and has six gunpoints. I can never cope with flying the Perseus because it turns too fast.

[Stormkeeper]

I prefer the Myrmidon to the Perseus simply because it turns slower and has six gunpoints. I can never cope with flying the Perseus because it turns too fast.

Eh. I can't cope with the Ares and get somewhat irritated by the Myrmi and Herc for that same reason.

[headdie]

I love the Perseus its speed and agility represent what a fighter is, tbh i feel bogged down in the heavier craft

[QuantumDelta]

The myrm isn't terrible but it has several downsides;

Too slow a turn speed.
Presents too big a target.
Only one bank of it's secondaries is usefully alligned (otherwise the missiles all fly out of different holes, it's a bit difficult to maintain a steady stream of the only truly good dogfighting secondary; tempests).
The first primary bank (the dual bank) is too high to be effectively useful vs an equal skilled pilot turning at the same speed unless you're pulling up (which isn't actually very often vs joystick pilots, because it's naturally easier to dive, you can roll into it so you end up asif you're pulling up relative to them but it can take too long).

Other than that it's pretty ok, definitely not my dogfight ship of choice though, only /really/ useful with a morning star in the top bank.
Unless you're purely shooting down bombs or something, I rank subach right along with prom r btw :<

Perseus/Uly/Loki are very high skill requirement craft (ie; not great in rookie hands) but they tend to outperform all the others in the hands of someone who really knows how to use them.

Eri is the 2-4v2-4 fighter of choice.
The Mk2 is often used as support to the Eri (because Eri's are so dangerous they can't be ignored, which leaves the Mk2 to sit at range with MornS and secondary spam, not my fave tactic tho )

[Akalabeth Angel]

The myrm isn't terrible but it has several downsides;

Too slow a turn speed.
Presents too big a target.

Actually the Myrm doesn't turn slowly, it climbs slowly (and dives). Its left to right turn is pretty average for a fighter but it's up/down is horrendous.

Also is it really that big a target? I hear everyone saying that but when I'm shooting at them I don't exactly have an easy time. And easier time than some fighters to be sure, but not others . . .

[QuantumDelta]

Most dogfighting takes place over all 3 axis heavily ;\

And yea, because most of it's target profile is from above/below in 1on1 or 2on2 most of your target view of it is from above or below whilst moving to oneside or the other.

[Thaeris]

I'll have to start playing online someday... a good deal of the stated preferences stem from multiplayer games... which I've never been a part of.

Although the Herc 2 is my favorite, I found the Ares to be acceptable as a gunfighter when properly handled. Maxims in the first bank and a good all-round primary in the second bank (Kaysers/PromS) give it a great punch. When it comes to secondaries I tend to stick with dogfighting munitions like Tempests and Harpoons as I've said before.

-Thaeris

[terran_emperor]

I like the Erinyes with W-Kaiser for primary weapons and Harpoons and Trebuchets of secondaries

[Mongoose]

Am I the only one in here who can't use Tempests to save his life?

[Tantalus53]

In Missions: Kaiser/Prometheus S + Harpoon/Trebuchet

In Multi-player: Kaiser/Subach + Tempest/Tornado for those embarassing 'Collide-and-flail' moments that most find awkward, but i make deadly   

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Am I the only one in here who can't use Tempests to save his life?

I can't even kill anything in multiplayer.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Am I the only one in here who can't use Tempests to save his life?

Am I the only one in here that doesn't like Kaysers? I'll take Prometheus S over kaysers anyday. Kaysers suck power too fast and Prom-S have much superior range over any other general purpose weapon.

[headdie]

Am I the only one in here who can't use Tempests to save his life?

Am I the only one in here that doesn't like Kaysers? I'll take Prometheus S over kaysers anyday. Kaysers suck power too fast and Prom-S have much superior range over any other general purpose weapon.

and is got a slower rate of fire which dont suit my playing style

[Iranon]

Depends entirely on difficulty level for me. Some campaigns are balanced to be almost unplayable above medium; here Kayser compatibility is a major draw for me when it comes to selecting my craft. If it's playble on hard/insane, I prefer efficiency over sheer power.

Regarding the Myrmidon: I find it not very survivable at all. While it's not that sluggish or large, it doesn't have the shields to make those traits acceptable. I generally pick it only if I'm not worried about my own safety and just need to do my job in time (it offers a good combination of speed and firepower).

Regarding weapon loadout: Equal banks on a Myrmidon gives you no dps advantage over just using the 4-gun bank and wider spread. I could understand the appeal if you want to carefully aim each shot and hit with 6 Prometheus S at the same time but a 4+2 loadout generally favours a split... if you have 4 Subachs for efficiency, you can get a little more firepower or juggling utility by coupling them with Kaysers/Morning Stars without truly outrageous energy requirements.

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Lokis are the top Terran dogfighting craft for me... small enough, speedy enough, great afterburners, small secondary payload is not that much of a drawback if you just want some Tempests to speed up a kill. The biggest problem: The Perseus does that job almost as well and can carry some form of homing missiles at the same time.

[Commander Zane]

Am I the only one in here who can't use Tempests to save his life?

Am I the only one in here that doesn't like Kaysers? I'll take Prometheus S over kaysers anyday. Kaysers suck power too fast and Prom-S have much superior range over any other general purpose weapon.

and is got a slower rate of fire which dont suit my playing style

Not as slow as the Prometheus, it's four shots per second as opposed to three.

[sigtau]

I'm a Prometheus whore, I never could get good with the Kayser.  Though, I miss the Banshee from FS1.  That was a great weapon for the second primary bank in a Herc.