[Colonol Dekker]

The corporat term for this situation is, ongoing.

[iamzack]

I have not had the best experiences, as far as dating asian women goes.

[High Max]

Well you have to have a more compatible lifestyle to them, like I do, I suppose. The ones who follow their culture like to have a man who doesn't smoke, doesn't drink much, doesn't go to bars, and likes to live healthy and learn a lot and is careful with his money and strong in the mind, but isn't very superficial and doesn't care about being rich. That fits my lifestyle and way of thinking.

I assume you are Turambar using iamzack's account since you said you were with Asian women, or I could be wrong.

[iamzack]

You do know that more Chinese men smoke than don't smoke, right? Also, drinking is a huge part of culture in eastern Asia.

This is iamzack. Turambar has not had the, er, pleasure, of dating an Asian female.

[High Max]

Yes, I know in oriental culture, men smoke even more than in USA, but I know that Asian women don't smoke or drink normally and they hate it, just like I hate smoking and hate being around it and get after some family members for their nasty habit.

[iamzack]

That seems very unlikely, High Max.

[Flipside]

I think it is culturally unacceptable for most women to smoke in most oriental countries, but once that taboo is overcome, you'll probably find the rates almost 50/50, so, if you met an oriental girl who lived in an oriental country, the odds of her being a non-smoker are far higher than an oriental girl who lives in a Western country. At least, as I understand it, possibly someone closer to the fact could give a more accurate account of whether that's true or not.

[High Max]

@iamzack: No doubt you probably chose one who was polluted with this culture. Most also are heterosexual and they don't smoke normally. I know because I have known some Asian people in person who were not born here and also read about their culture and it talked about how Asian men smoke a lot and VN may have the highest number of men who smoke per capita in the world, but it is different for Asian women. I also know many Asian women don't smoke because I have seen many profiles on the net and all that I have seen so far that I can remember said that they don't smoke.

However, the kind of behavior like smoking and drinking is increasing in the newer generation in their home countries, sadly. Drugs too. It's part of the corruption spread by western culture and media (drugs mostly as well as other things and a decrease in family concern).

That is my take on it, Flipside, both with what I have read and with the people I have known in person from there. Sadly it is changing for the worst, thanks mostly by media from the west.

[iamzack]

Yeeeahh... you'd be surprised how many Chinese students went to my high school who still have their accents, I guess.

Anyway, the fact that most Chinese men smoke points to Chinese women probably not minding it too much. Seems to me like it is seen as a "man thing" and that would even make it a sign of masculinity. (As in, if you don't smoke, you are less masculine.)

[High Max]

I'm not talking about just China. I include any country that is oriental. I'm pretty sure when it comes to certain basics, they are all similar, but they are slightly different in the less basic ways. Just like how Latin American countries have a similar core culture, but can be broken down into slightly different cultures with the same basics remaining when you look at each country in that area. Like how Colombia and Mexico are different, though similar.

[iamzack]

China, Japan, and Korea are very different countries with very different cultures. Their similarities are: chopsticks, slanty eyes, and racism.

[Flipside]

Thing is, you go to highly westernised areas of Japan, such as Tokyo, and I doubt you'd find much difference in smoking rates than in any Western city, but out in the rural areas, I honestly don't know.

And there are actually some basic Tenets that Japan and China at least have in common, partly because there's been so much interaction between the two, both friendly and unfriendly. Things like honour-based feudalism, organised armies, and certain areas of religion/myth all probably had their roots in Chinese tradition at first, and were adapted to Japanese culture.

[IceFire]

This topic really exploded since a few hours ago. Already 3 more pages.

The materialism of USA is enough to push me away, but I can think of almost 10 other reasons, but I won't get into that. I would not want to protect something I'm against, but the military seems to want to protect that. People also think it is easy to leave when it isn't.

Also, I actually find darker women (non-whites) more attractive than whites, especially orientals. Blacks and hispanics are pretty good looking too, on average. I love very dark eyes and dark hair with a brown or yellowish skin. I feel they have better accents too. I also think the oriental and hispanic culture is better than a white man's culture. They seem to have more politeness. On average, they also show more love when in a serious relationship with one of them. Those cultures have tighter families and seem to put husband/wife and certain love ones first before money compared to the white man's culture.

Being attracted to other races actually defies evolution, according to the evolution fanatics. They go saying that you are naturally more attracted to people who look more like yourself. A big hole in that part of the theory right here, since I'm definitely not the only one who finds darker women and women with a flat-bridged nose more attractive. Of course experiences can play a role somewhat.

Those people are off their rocker.  When it comes to genetics and selection you are more inclined to seek out someone who is genetically distinct from you...not the same.  Its more complicated because at the same time we're all driven to find good genetics as well.  This may be based on looks although it can be in less obvious forms as well.

[General Battuta]

China, Japan, and Korea are very different countries with very different cultures. Their similarities are: chopsticks, slanty eyes, and racism.

Well, just to be pedantic, Asian eyes are actually more level than the Caucasian average. It's just the epicanthic fold of the eyelids that makes them look slanted.

[iamzack]

they look slanted for any reason = slanty eyes

[Snail]

[blackhole]

Do you guys go looking for things to worry about? Do you need something to worry about so you can ignore how utterly pointless your life is? In a hundred years, so much wil have changed that you won't be able to recognize the street you grew up on, and I highly doubt that's going to be influenced by how much people immigrate to your country. I mean, sure, you won't recognize the street you grew up on for different reasons, but you still won't recognize it so it hardly makes a difference. Worry instead about what your going to do when your grandkids ask for a new quantum handheld computer for their birthday.

[Ford Prefect]

"The universe is flux; life is opinion."

--Marcus Aurelius, prominent Westerner

[Liberator]

I fully recognize that my life is pointless and that I have nothing to contribute to either society or even to myself, my life has less point than most anyone's you know.  I know on the same basic level that you love your significant other that my life is void of any meaning or value.

However, I don't think small-scale, it's probably one of many reasons why I've never had a serious relationship with anyone or held down a real job.  I think in the largest pictures of anyone I know, in the quiet spaces of my head I plan out, in the grossest terms available, ways to solve the largest problems plaguing mankind.  And no, I don't mean bigotry or social ills, I mean how to preserve the species in the near and long term.  Most of which involve re-accelerating the push into space, colonization of the moon and the development, design and construction of space habitats that are capable of supporting tens of thousands.  Then once we tame the space surrounding Earth and perfect our intra-orbital tech to the point where going to the moon is like driving to another city.

I worry about this because I see it happening where I live, vast numbers of immigrants who don't bother to learn the language or even the basic laws.  The ones I've met are decent folk, but they're not making much attempt to integrate into the existing culture.

[Flipside]

It's always, if you'll pardon the pun, a Mexican stand-off, there's a vicious societal circle where everyone is waiting for everyone else to make the first move. In this case there are a lot of people on one side wishing that Immigrants would do more to involve themselves with the local culture, and there are immigrants who wish the local culture would be more accepting of them, and so round it goes.