[CP5670]

Why does it seem that this makes no sense...

LOL, yeah I agree. Those laws were created slightly after the end of WW2 by the winning nations, which basically consisted of the US, UK, France and the Soviet Union. The balance of power has shifted somewhat since then, but the law hasn't really been changed. Like I said though, there is no law in practice or anything; if anyone else has the capability to construct them, nobody is going to try and stop them.

[Setekh]

Yeah. After all, if they finish, they'll HAVE NUKES...

Sometimes you wonder how we screwed up this society so much.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Setekh
Yeah. After all, if they finish, they'll HAVE NUKES...

Sometimes you wonder how we screwed up this society so much.

Humanities tendency to screw over anything they find, including themselves

It's in history, a guy invented the concept of killing, then war, then religion (I mean the religious wars (ya know, like the crusaders) not religion itself so don't flame me), then auto-matic weapons, then heavy armor (tanks), then planes, then nukes, then whatever-we-come-up-with-next (ZPE, Beams?)

[Shrike]

Actually, the plane predated the tank.

And while we may have a screwed up society, always remember it could be far, far worse......

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Shrike
Actually, the plane predated the tank.

And while we may have a screwed up society, always remember it could be far, far worse......

Worse? Fill me in

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Shrike
And while we may have a screwed up society, always remember it could be far, far worse......

Yeah, true...

[CP5670]

It's in history, a guy invented the concept of killing, then war, then religion (I mean the religious wars (ya know, like the crusaders) not religion itself so don't flame me), then auto-matic weapons, then heavy armor (tanks), then planes, then nukes, then whatever-we-come-up-with-next (ZPE, Beams?)

It's technological progress though, which is always good...

[Kamikaze]

Well I know we wouldn't have HLP if we were all cavemen so..

[Bobboau]

Is it just me or do all the major world religions go through a period of extreme corruption and militancy, I mean the Jews were basically a concurring force in the "promised land", later the Christians had the crusades, and the inquisition, now the Muslims are having there crusades (jihad), it really amasses me how similar Christianity and Islam are, both have there founders basically worshipped as gods, both preach tolerance and compassion, both have been hijacked to further political goals, both have holy wars. I really feel really sorry for these people's descendants, they will have to live with the shame, the same shame that Christians must live with, for the crimes aganced you're own laws and you're own god

[icespeed]

Christians don't live with the shame.. or, technically, they dont have to. theyve been forgiven by god.

and no one should have nukes. nukes should be illegal for everyone. nukes are _evil_.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Bobboau
it really amasses me how similar Christianity and Islam are

There's one BIG difference. Christianity relies on grace; that is, Jesus atoned for all our sins. Islam relies on personal service; if you're not good enough, and don't perform all your rituals everyday, then you don't get to "go to Heaven".

[Bobboau]

well isn't that sort of like Judaism

[Setekh]

Judaism (believed by Jews) is very, very different. They do not believe that Jesus Christ was God; they believe that the Messiah is still to come.

[Kamikaze]

Just so I know (curiosity) how do people tell when god forgives them for something -  I know comparatively little about christianity...

[Setekh]

You ask, and He hears. (He has very good hearing.) All you need do is ask for forgiveness sincerely; and it is given to you.

[Corsair]

Originally posted by Setekh
Judaism (believed by Jews) is very, very different. They do not believe that Jesus Christ was God; they believe that the Messiah is still to come.

Steak hit it right on nose. We believe that Jesus was a false Messiah, and the real one has not yet arrived.
*changes topic back to nukes*

China is definitely allowed to have nukes, as they have nuclear submarines that carry ICBMs with nuclear warheads capable of taking out a city on the West Coast from about 4000 miles away.
*changes topic to Middle East*

I've got an idea. Why don't they just give Israel to us at HLP? Steak can be president and we can all go live in HLPLand happily ever after. No more violence because there are no religious owners of the country.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by icespeed
Christians don't live with the shame.. or, technically, they dont have to. theyve been forgiven by god.

and no one should have nukes. nukes should be illegal for everyone. nukes are _evil_.

Yeah, then a asteroid comes or aliens and we get wiped out. Also about China, NO! It doesnt matter what gear they've got, their not allowed them.

[Corsair]

I'm almost positive that China is a nuclear-legal country...but whatever you say

[wEvil]

Nuclear "legal"?

thats the most rediclous oxymoron i've ever heard.
 
If there was any kind of enforcable "law" then NO NUKES would be the only legal thing.  China is in possession of nuclear material as is N.korea, Pakistan, India and probably Iraq as well.

I wouldnt trust any of them to sit the right way round on a toilet seat given the populations capacity for rational thought, but luckily the threat of a nuclear winter seems to have stopped them wiping us all out.

Still..such technology should have never been made available to them - or us for that matter.

[Ace Pace]

tell that to the judge\creator\modern power : US