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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Sorry pal, it's banter.
Nothing personal. ;)

My psersonal belief regarding the blue beam is that it was due to post process on the FS2 command brief. I wouldn't imagine it being that colour really. Although that custom Vasuda prime *smite* vid is cool.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Snail's beyond catastrophic damage :wakka:
Why do you keep taking potshots at me? :wtf:

Snail, haven't you realized the Colonol is terribly xenophobic? The thought of an intelligible snail terrifies him udderly; the only thing he can do is lash out...

Sad, is it not?  :blah:
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Offline Marcov

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Let's make it...

FS1 Shivan Armada vs. SW Death Squadron (since it's FS vs SW currently):

I took this from SpaceBattles.com, unfortunately it's extremely old, anyways.

FS1 Shivan Armada has:

1 SD Lucifer
1 SD Demon
22 SC Cains
5 SC Liliths
400 shivan fighters & bombers (let's just make it 100 Basilisks, 100 Dragons, 200 Nephilims)

SW Fleet has:

1 Executor SSD
24 Imperial-Class Star Destroyers
1000 TIEs (TIE Fighter/Bomber Models)

RULES:
1. SD Lucifer's impenetrable shield is taken out.
2. SD Lucifer mounts its flux cannons as strong as the one in the FS2 intro (can hole an Orion destroyer in one shot)
3. SD Lucifer has 3 flux cannons.
4. Executor takes on the Lucifer, fighters take on each other, bombers try to take out caps, Shivan cruisers take on ISD's.

Who wins??
« Last Edit: November 01, 2009, 08:16:40 pm by Marcov »
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Whichever side you're a bigger fan of.


My personal vote? Malcolm Reynolds.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Mal is the BEST!
Mal > Han Solo

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Whichever side you're a bigger fan of.

My personal vote? Malcolm Reynolds.

Me? well, without the DS, Freespace. But Star Wars' enormous numerical advantage and the SSD shield-array pwning photon torpedo gives SW an edge. On the other hand, Lucy's destroyer-penetrating flux's and subspace gives Freespace an edge.

You have a point, though  :yes:
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline mmm99

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Wouldn't it be plausible that Star wars fighters would be able to neutralise the beam weapons of FS cap ships?

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Well definitely plausible--FS fighters do that already.
However, it works both ways.  SW can take out beam cannons, FS can take out turbolasers.  Those SW fighters would have to work fast to keep their fleet from getting beam'd hard, and the FS fighters would have to work really hard to reduce an SD's armament in time to have a significant impact on combat.  

Though I do have to say that SW fighters often look like they're surprisingly thinly armored, whereas FS ships tend to be heavily armored.  If they have to resort to ramming, my vote's on the FS ships.

Here's one thing I've wondered about the Lucy--where the hell is it's shield array?  It's always seemed like it's integrated into the hull of the ship, or is inside the ship, unlike SW shields.  That might hamper the hail-Mary photon torpedo a bit.

Mal totally pwns Han.

In terms of each universe's bad guys, I think Shivans are more bad-ass than Storm Troopers.  Let's see Vader and his minions try to pull what they did on Leia's transport on a Lilith or Rakhshasa.  I have a feeling it won't end well for them.  Vader might survive, but given an ST's accuracy rate... I think the ST's are crispy bacon if they try to board a Shivan vessel.  
« Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 11:33:58 pm by esarai »
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<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline Retsof

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
And stoormtroopers don't have razor sharp hands or beam cannons built into thier bodies.  I don't think accuracy would be a problem for a Shivan as shooting is probably as natural as looking at something.
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Offline esarai

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Precisely my point.  Sorry, last post seems to have been confusing.  Edited for clarity.
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I still maintain it's just fundamentally silly, as Herra pointed out over in the thread about that crossover video.

There's just no grounds for comparison.

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
We can allways try to find one.

Seriously, all you need is a baseline. Problem is, you can use several things as baselines and they contradict eachother.

Canon numbers and in-game (or movie) performace do not match. Heck, performance in cut-scenes (or movies) and games doesn't match. Sometimes you have discrepencies wihtin a single movie/game.

Then you have to ask youself - what is more accurate - the movie? The game? The website numbers?

Since 99% of all sci-fi universes are not actually self-consistent, you're basicly at mission impossible.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Quite so, and well said.

 

Offline esarai

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I agree with your points, Battuta and TrashMan.
It's just every now and then you need a break from reason.  I spend most of my time being a voice of reason, so I choose the ludicrous to counter it.  Hence I'm still arguing.
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I think in a numbers-matched duel it'd be a fun fight, and surprisingly fair.

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
lol @ 2:30.
Star Wars music.

I have no idea what the ramming scene from Nemesis has to do with the attack from the Lucifer... :blah:

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I think the author wanted the Enterprise to have rammed to the LUCIFER.
BTW I didn't hear any Star Wars music there?
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Check it again, it's the music they typically use on Rebel Vs. TIE dogfights.

 

Offline Thaeris

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Definative proof that FreeSpace trumps Star Trek!  :lol:
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It's the Duke Nukem Forever of prophecies..."


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Everyone else takes normal damage.
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