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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
While a TerSlash would only do superficial damage to a SD's hull, the slash of the beam would take out a lot of turrets and surface subsystems.  While a Deimos or two wouldn't do all that much damage to a SD's hull integrity, a SD would lose a great deal of its firepower as the TerSlashes rake its hull.
Unless an ISD's shields are substantially resistant to GTVA beam weaponry. :p

 
Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
While a TerSlash would only do superficial damage to a SD's hull, the slash of the beam would take out a lot of turrets and surface subsystems.  While a Deimos or two wouldn't do all that much damage to a SD's hull integrity, a SD would lose a great deal of its firepower as the TerSlashes rake its hull.

And just how long would a Deimo's last under heavy turbo fire?  It'll last longer under fire from a Sathana's than a ISD unless it's at the unguarded rear.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
While a TerSlash would only do superficial damage to a SD's hull, the slash of the beam would take out a lot of turrets and surface subsystems.  While a Deimos or two wouldn't do all that much damage to a SD's hull integrity, a SD would lose a great deal of its firepower as the TerSlashes rake its hull.
Unless an ISD's shields are substantially resistant to GTVA beam weaponry. :p
Well they're rated at several TT per second.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
While a TerSlash would only do superficial damage to a SD's hull, the slash of the beam would take out a lot of turrets and surface subsystems.  While a Deimos or two wouldn't do all that much damage to a SD's hull integrity, a SD would lose a great deal of its firepower as the TerSlashes rake its hull.

We have no idea if any of that is true.

It's all assumption and supposition and feh.

 
Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
He did have a point- SW ships have to come out the direction they started in. FS ships do WHAT EVER THE HECK THEY WANT.  :p

And you support that with what exactly? While fighters typically do that by the nature of the sexp system (arrive within X of target), most scripted ships do not follow that pattern. In the blockade mission for example, all of the NTF ships arrive in the same direction which suggests that they do not do whatever the heck they want.

Nightcrawler is a massive fag. . .

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What's your point?  That plenty of it sucks somehow negates the works that are excellent?  If that is your reasoning then the movie franchise should be considered mediocre since the prequels are absolute bantha **** and RotJ had Ewoks.
'scuse me, but Ewoks rule.  Just sayin'. :p

Yeah screw you guys, I like the Ewoks too. And their music.
The fact that Lucas cut out the Ewok hoedown for some unremarkable piece of **** pissed me off to no end. I've heard rumours of an unbutchered original trilogy somewhere but I don't know if the rumours are true.


 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Yeah screw you guys, I like the Ewoks too. And their music.
The fact that Lucas cut out the Ewok hoedown for some unremarkable piece of **** pissed me off to no end. I've heard rumours of an unbutchered original trilogy somewhere but I don't know if the rumours are true.
The individual volume releases (i.e. not the box set) of the original trilogy films each contained a "bonus disk" with the original theatrical version on it.  Said disk was the sole reason I bought those versions; I could care less about disk 1's garbage. :p

 
Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Yeah screw you guys, I like the Ewoks too. And their music.
The fact that Lucas cut out the Ewok hoedown for some unremarkable piece of **** pissed me off to no end. I've heard rumours of an unbutchered original trilogy somewhere but I don't know if the rumours are true.
The individual volume releases (i.e. not the box set) of the original trilogy films each contained a "bonus disk" with the original theatrical version on it.  Said disk was the sole reason I bought those versions; I could care less about disk 1's garbage. :p

Really? ****ing-a. Need to pick those up.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I liked the Outrider. That was it. .
 
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 I'd like to see the Empire harassed by the Lucifer back on off-topic. ;)
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I'd like to see the Empire harassed by the Lucifer back on off-topic. ;)

But they could use tractor beams to keep the Lucy from moving right? or maybe not...  :confused:
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
I'd like to see the Empire harassed by the Lucifer back on off-topic. ;)

But they could use tractor beams to keep the Lucy from moving right? or maybe not...  :confused:
I don't think tractor beams can stop ships that large from moving... Even within the SW universe.

That is of course, not including stuff like Centerpoint Station. :D

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
To my speculations, teh D Star'd be *********************'d up in a single hour by the Lucifer. Well, at least heavily damage it...remember the city-destroying blue beam?

Have you seen the Gargant? Think of it ramming the Executor to death...you'd hear Palpatine saying to Vader, "dive, dive, dive, hit your burners!!!"

And finally, we have Alpha one making himself invulnerable, and simply cheat his own ship to possess a Flux Cannon, launch it to the DS's core...blast.

Or, furthermore, Alpha one could just mod the .tbl files and create a lethal missile probably inflicting 2000,000 teratons of force  ;7
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With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
:blah:

:doubt:

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
To my speculations, teh D Star'd be *********************'d up in a single hour by the Lucifer. Well, at least heavily damage it...remember the city-destroying blue beam?

Have you seen the Gargant? Think of it ramming the Executor to death...you'd hear Palpatine saying to Vader, "dive, dive, dive, hit your burners!!!"

And finally, we have Alpha one making himself invulnerable, and simply cheat his own ship to possess a Flux Cannon, launch it to the DS's core...blast.

Or, furthermore, Alpha one could just mod the .tbl files and create a lethal missile probably inflicting 2000,000 teratons of force  ;7

1: well, ISD has those turbolasers that destroyed cities too (Taris, anyone?)
2: Gargant is noncanon so meh x]
3: and then, Vader spawnz a HUGE ROCKZ AND THEY CRASHES ALPHA 1s[/irony]
4: um.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
To my speculations, teh D Star'd be *********************'d up in a single hour by the Lucifer. Well, at least heavily damage it...remember the city-destroying blue beam?

Have you seen the Gargant? Think of it ramming the Executor to death...you'd hear Palpatine saying to Vader, "dive, dive, dive, hit your burners!!!"

And finally, we have Alpha one making himself invulnerable, and simply cheat his own ship to possess a Flux Cannon, launch it to the DS's core...blast.

Or, furthermore, Alpha one could just mod the .tbl files and create a lethal missile probably inflicting 2000,000 teratons of force  ;7

this is a proper off-topic discussion. screw canonicity, screw real life. Let your imagination and bias for FS2/watever else run wild
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
You'll notice the terminal effect of those turbolasers, individually, on Taris that we actually saw was very, very little. Not nearly enough to match the multi-kiloton missiles we see FS fighters throw around like confetti.
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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
To be fair, though, the only way we know FreeSpace missiles are multi-kiloton yield is from fluff text, not ingame effect...which is the same source that rates turbolasers as so incredibly powerful.

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Remember FS2? 90 Sathanas juggernauts. And they PWNED a frikin star. Therefore,

Sath Fleet = Sun Crusher (only the Capella sun couldn't cause a chain reaction).

Sath Fleet > Death Star. Well, at least they could pwn the DS all the more.
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Yeah, but it took them days.

And the Sun Crusher is stupid.

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
Well, if Sath Fleet = Sun Crusher, the SW universe has the advantage right there.  We have no canon Shivan Juggernaut numbers, only what we saw in FS 2.  Sun Crusher pwns Shivans all by itself :cool:.

Superweapons aside, I seriously think an SSD could take a Juggernaut.

 

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Re: Freespace vs. X crossover debate...sigh :D
To be fair, though, the only way we know FreeSpace missiles are multi-kiloton yield is from fluff text, not ingame effect...which is the same source that rates turbolasers as so incredibly powerful.

We actually see turbolasers pierce the roof and hit in the hanger around the Ebon Hawk (and people!), and hitting Taris' towers in cutscene for KOTOR. We have other fluff sources like Iron Fist's twenty-minute bombardment of a Rebel base in Wedge's Gamble that provide fairly conclusive evidence they're not kiloton individual weapons. The main battery output of a Star Destroyer can be guessed at from Empire Strikes Back and is in the multi-kiloton range to deal with the asteroids they fire at; mind, this is full output of the weapons that would bear.

So Star Wars doesn't have fluff that states its weapons are multi-kiloton monstrousities, rather much less. By its own admission, they are weaker. You've pointed out several other salient advantages yourself, of course, but they don't have a leg in the weapons discussion.
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