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Offline Fineus

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on: April 06, 2002, 02:43:47 am
Perhaps it's just me but there seems to be an increasing number of planned/recently released Star Wars games of varying genres around... in the past I think almost all SW games (with the exception of Rogue Squadron, Podfighter, Starfighter etc...) have been extreme hits in the genres they occupy. At a glance the up-coming games look to be equally detailed and epic, but I was wondering - is it possible to dilute interest in games by releasing so many set in the same universe?
 

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Reply #1 on: April 06, 2002, 02:48:18 am
Highly possible.

I would like to play as a X-Wing pilot against those Yuuzhan Vong fighters and capital ships though..:D Maybe we should start flooding LucasArt with emails demading they do a game for the New Jedi Order.
 

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Reply #2 on: April 06, 2002, 03:02:02 am
doesn't it really depend on what genres all the games are in- if theyre all based on the same sort of plot like, i dunno, find and kill all enemies or something (oversimplification i know) then theyll get boring. all of them.
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Reply #3 on: April 06, 2002, 03:15:21 am
I get your meaning there (both of you) and especially like the idea of the Yuuzhan Vong... a mod for XWA perhaps?

If they were particularly clever they could continue the plot of the SW universe using different game genres with each telling a side of the same story (similar to the add-on packs for Half Life but set in different places etc...). That way they could rope in SW fanatics buy making it essential to have all the games to get the full story whilst also reaching each genre and advancing the story as  a whole...
 

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Reply #4 on: April 06, 2002, 03:24:29 am
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doesn't it really depend on what genres all the games are in- if theyre all based on the same sort of plot like, i dunno, find and kill all enemies or something (oversimplification i know) then theyll get boring. all of them.


Tell that to all the people who put C&C, C&C2, Tiberian Sun, RA, RA2, and Yuri's Revenge. Beat it till it bleeds. ;)
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Reply #5 on: April 06, 2002, 03:30:13 am
"Tell that to all the people who put C&C, C&C2, Tiberian Sun, RA, RA2, and Yuri's Revenge. Beat it till it bleeds.
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well, some people are... well, put it this way: some people don't get bored easily.:D
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Reply #6 on: April 06, 2002, 03:32:21 am
You could say that, or you could be kinder to the people who DID buy them and say that tried-and-true formulae are worth repeating. :)
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Reply #7 on: April 06, 2002, 04:16:38 am
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You could say that, or you could be kinder to the people who DID buy them and say that tried-and-true formulae are worth repeating. :)


And sometimes not... I have RA2 and got Emperor: Battle for Dune (only reason is because it was 13 bucks) and it is wayyyy to similiar. (for me)
Also E:BfD is clunky and moves akwardly with terrible pathfinding AI... :nod:
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Reply #8 on: April 06, 2002, 04:21:16 am
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And sometimes not... I have RA2 and got Emperor: Battle for Dune (only reason is because it was 13 bucks) and it is wayyyy to similiar. (for me)
Also E:BfD is clunky and moves akwardly with terrible pathfinding AI... :nod:


Does it men u don't like emperor? :(  I like it!!! :nod:
 

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Reply #9 on: April 06, 2002, 04:43:36 am
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Also E:BfD is clunky and moves akwardly with terrible pathfinding AI... :nod:


The AI pathfinding problems were there in the original C&C, and it has not really improved in RA2; they could have kept using the same basic idea, but a lot more enhancements should have been made in six years. (it wasn't too bad until TS, after which everything went downhill IMHO)
 

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Reply #10 on: April 06, 2002, 04:52:36 am
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(it wasn't too bad until TS, after which everything went downhill IMHO)


It was doomed as soon as they penned the acronym... :D
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Reply #11 on: April 06, 2002, 08:15:07 am
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Tell that to all the people who put C&C, C&C2, Tiberian Sun, RA, RA2, and Yuri's Revenge. Beat it till it bleeds. ;)


Dont forget firestorm :D. Anyway you cant get bored of SW, like Raven said, theres so much going on, so much to choose from.
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Reply #12 on: April 06, 2002, 01:09:29 pm
This is sort of semi-Ot, but I bought both Serious Sams - knowing fine well that the second was nigh-identical to the first one (that was why i bought the sequel).  Strangely, it became a lot less satisfying, so maybe too much of a good thing is bad for you.

On the other hand, I've bought al lealt 6different versions of ISS (Gameboy, SNES, PS1, N64, Ps2) , and been happy with all, so maybe it depends on the genre.
 

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Reply #13 on: April 06, 2002, 01:21:54 pm
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Does it men u don't like emperor? :(  I like it!!! :nod:


I like it, just that some parts of it are really frustrating.
Also it doesn't really have too much improvement over RA2 or any other CC-type game.

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On the other hand, I've bought al lealt 6different versions of ISS (Gameboy, SNES, PS1, N64, Ps2) , and been happy with all, so maybe it depends on the genre.


What's ISS?
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Reply #14 on: April 06, 2002, 01:27:03 pm
ISS = International Superstar Soccer.

aka Pro Evolution on the Ps2.

Awful name, but the best footie games in existence. :)
 

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Reply #15 on: April 06, 2002, 01:42:19 pm
I bet there will be another massive explosion of Star Wars Games when Attack of The Clones is released on the 16th may. Well there is Jedi Starfighter already as well as the Clone Campaigns for Galactic Battlegrounds.


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Reply #16 on: April 06, 2002, 01:44:37 pm
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ISS = International Superstar Soccer.

aka Pro Evolution on the Ps2.

Awful name, but the best footie games in existence. :)


I see, maybe I should try it...

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On the other hand, I've bought al lealt 6different versions of ISS (Gameboy, SNES, PS1, N64, Ps2) , and been happy with all, so maybe it depends on the genre.
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Yeah, it depends on genre (and personal inclination, of course) because take, for example, the RPGs. Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale, have not made any big technological/gameplay innovations for a while but they're still popular. Why? in an RPG it's the story that counts so...
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Reply #17 on: April 06, 2002, 04:31:48 pm
Its really hard to overpopulate something, but in the case of the sims, i'll make an exception.
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Reply #18 on: April 07, 2002, 12:12:25 am
And then there's all those Final Fantasy games.. and Ultima.
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Reply #19 on: April 07, 2002, 12:54:28 am
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And then there's all those Final Fantasy games.. and Ultima.


Well see, in these examples the whole genre is based on something other than the game engine and the system. It's more on how the story is presented...

But for Strategy games - I don't know, is it more units?, or more of the same with souped up graphics?. I mean if an alien came from the sky wouldn't he think Dune 2 and Emperor were awfully similar?

So yeah :p
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