[High Max]

misogynistic = hate for women, and that isn't valid. If I hated them, I wouldn't have been in love with women before and still like certain ones. Submissive isn't the point. It is being loved and putting husband and kids before career and possessions and the man should be the same way to his wife. Oh, and Asian women will stand up for themselves. In the west, the stereotype is that they are submissive slaves and do all that the husband says, but that is not accurate. I have more in common with the average one and I like their traits, their feminine grace, their cute personality and their physical beauty. Who says submissivness is my reason? They also tend to be emotionally strong and stable, don't smoke and don't do things that I wouldn't do myself, and don't have a temper, and have a good attitude and be polite, etc etc, if you get one who follows her culture more (average). But I already said this in the past. No need to continue.

It isn't right to assume that I hate women just because I have my preference. I'm just saying I prefer not to be in a serious relationship with western women, but I won't refuse to talk with them.

[Scotty]

Misogynistic = unequal treatment of another gender.  Almost a synonym of sexism, but mostly used to in places more related to condescention.

Common usage of words overrules ancient roots and prefixes.

[General Battuta]

It's expecting the woman to put the man first. Any power relationship that requires an individual to perform some task because of his or her gender is sexist.

EDIT: Yeah, Scotty's right. It's fundamentally unequal.

And the thing is that you could love and respect women and still be misogynistic. To a degree we all are. The key is recognizing it.

[High Max]

But I will put her first as well. I won't even want to hug or look too much at other women if I had a love.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynistic.

[iamzack]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

[General Battuta]

But I will put her first as well. I won't even want to hug or look too much at other women if I had a love.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynistic.

I'm tremendously devoted and affectionate to my cat (or I was, back before it died.)

That does not make it an equal relationship. At all. You can't say 'give up your autonomy, in exchange for love!' and have it be fair.

[Nuclear1]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

You're a very bitter person sometimes.

[General Battuta]

I actually think it's a reasonable response, to be honest. She's dealing with the equivalent of racism. We just have an unfortunate double standard as a culture where you can get off with talking down to women but not with racist speech.

[Turambar]

I beat Iamzack just like I would beat a guy.

i am not sexist! :-D

[iamzack]

It's a placeholder for a real response which will come later. (This is a lie. I will forget about it shortly.)

Edit: I don't date anyone who won't hit back.

[Nuclear1]

I actually think it's a reasonable response, to be honest. She's dealing with the equivalent of racism. We just have an unfortunate double standard as a culture where you can get off with talking down to women but not with racist speech.

Fair enough. 

Edit: I don't date anyone who won't hit back.

So as long as the fuzzy handcuffs stay out of it

[NGTM-1R]

Misogynistic = unequal treatment of another gender.  Almost a synonym of sexism, but mostly used to in places more related to condescention.

Common usage of words overrules ancient roots and prefixes.

I believe the term you're looking for in regards to unequal treatment of males is called "misandristic". As it stands, it's one mostly applied to fiction, but...

[High Max]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

You're a very bitter person sometimes.

And it isn't an emotionally stable way of talking and acting. That's part of my point. Most foreign women and even foreign men who I have talked to never talk like that to me The average person seems to be more polite and shows more self control in that part of the world, and I have respect for people who are good at staying calm.

[Turambar]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

You're a very bitter person sometimes.

And it isn't an emotionally stable way of talking and acting. That's part of my point. Most foreign women and even foreign men who I have talked to never talk like that to me The average person seems to be more polite and shows more self control in that part of the world, and I have respect for people who are good at staying calm.

eat a bag of dicks, High Max.  There's stability, and there is keeping your calm when you're insulted, but this is the internet, and you don't need to keep it to yourself when someone is poking at you with words and you want to poke back.

[Nuclear1]

Alright, I think this is the part where we tone it down...

[General Battuta]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

You're a very bitter person sometimes.

And it isn't an emotionally stable way of talking and acting. That's part of my point. Most foreign women and even foreign men who I have talked to never talk like that to me The average person seems to be more polite and shows more self control in that part of the world, and I have respect for people who are good at staying calm.

Nobody should be expected to stay calm in the face of smug, self-justified hate and oppression. At least a good '**** you' doesn't pretend to be polite, instead of throwing out stereotypes like 'women are unstable' behind a veil.

That said, if this thread continues to go down the insult route - no matter how justified - it'll be locked. Tone it down.

[NGTM-1R]

And it isn't an emotionally stable way of talking and acting. That's part of my point. Most foreign women and even foreign men who I have talked to never talk like that to me The average person seems to be more polite and shows more self control in that part of the world, and I have respect for people who are good at staying calm.

The very concept of Zack's trolling, that she loses her temper for dramatic effect, is quite lost on you I see.

Never trust the motives of someone on the Internet.

[zookeeper]

**** you High Max. That's all I can spit out right now.

You're a very bitter person sometimes.

And it isn't an emotionally stable way of talking and acting. That's part of my point. Most foreign women and even foreign men who I have talked to never talk like that to me The average person seems to be more polite and shows more self control in that part of the world, and I have respect for people who are good at staying calm.

Nobody should be expected to stay calm in the face of smug, self-justified hate and oppression.

Quote?

And yes, everyone should be expected to stay calm in the face of calm expressions of a differing opinion, no matter what you might think the other guy might really be thinking.

[NGTM-1R]

Some things do not deserve your consideration. The strength of ideas is that they are communicable, but some are closer to diseases than others.

[General Battuta]

Right.

The funny thing about our world is, you can have people read an article about old people, and when they get up from the chair they will walk measurably more slowly.

Talking about how women need protection and coddling is in itself dangerous.

You should stay calm in the face of reasonably and rationally presented ideas. But High Max's sneering assertion that she was 'unstable' (unlike Asian women) was practically weaponized hate - inflaming a memetic virus that we're all infected with. Because everyone who reads a sentence like that will find his or her behavior subtly altered.

We have this crappy heuristic bug called 'mere repetition'. If you hear an opinion enough times, you will eventually believe it. It doesn't matter if you reject it each time you hear it; it worms its way in.

That's why misogynistic speech has to be shut down wherever possible.